corn cultivator
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Topic: corn cultivator
Posted By: Rick143
Subject: corn cultivator
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 6:53pm
| The guy I bought the corn planter from also has a four row front mount corn cultivator. I am thinking about buying it also but don't know how well they work? Also how hard is it to steer the tractor? |
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 7:18pm
| If you are moving and have power steering, they are not too bad. MACK |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:11pm
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The main benefit of a front mount cultivator is that you get to see what its doing without spinning on the seat constantly. So there's less excuse for cultivator blight. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:20pm
| What is the cultivator worth? It is new enough to have rubber on the packing wheels. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 10:59pm
| Have any pictures |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 6:28am
| No unfortunately. I didn't think to take any when I picked up the planter and it's a two and a half hour drive. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 6:39am
| I think most of the Allis cultivators and rubber on the wheels like a planter wheel. I'd say anywhere from $150-$500. Make sure to get all the brackets too. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 9:13am
| It's currently mounted on a wd but it is 100 percent on the front of the tractor. Nothing on the back end. Is this normal? |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 9:24am
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I think the front mount cultivator is less common than the rear mount, but probably has special mounts. The front mount makes the cultivating task easier for the tractor driver. I know I wished for one when I cultivated. Gerald J. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 9:37am
| our cultivators were front mount on a wd45 with rear mount furrowers instead of the delay it was hooked up with a diverter valve mounted on the steering post i think that set up must have been an option because that tractor was never repainted ours worked really well but i was never around any thing differant |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 9:39am
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I spent more time than I care to remember cultivating and for ease of operation the front mount wins hands down power steering or not. They lost out to rear mounts for two reasons. One is they are pretty much model specific, a WD cultivator will of course work on a WD45. The other being the time it takes to mount or remove them. Allis was better than some in that respect but it took all morning to install or remove them from our Farmalls. Value around here is $50 per ton. There was a rear "scratcher bar" to take out wheel tracks but a lot of guys never used them. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 11:05am
| Like butch said, there were a couple shovels on the back to take out the wheel tracks. |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 11:06am
| I recall we had them on a WD and WD-45 back in the day. They had a rear furrow bar that would take out the wheel tracks and it was on a delayed lift. I believe the left side hydraulic cylinder would swing forward to lift the front half and the right side cylinder would raise the rear bar. It seemed it would take dad, my uncle, and the dog all morning to mount the 4-row cultivators on both tractors. No power steering on either tractor. I remember riding on the toolbox cultivating corn... it was HOT! |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 5:38pm
| Thanks for all the advice. It sure is appreciated. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2016 at 7:17pm
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I first cultivated with a Ser I D-17 ,no power steering ,front mounted cultivator with the scratch bar , furrow bar whatever you called it on the back . I thought a rod went from the back bar to the front cultivators to lift . We later got a rear mounted for the D-19 . I told my brother it hurts my neck to look behind all the time .He said that he just looks forward and does not look back . I told him , yah I can tell where you cultivated . The first time I cultivated with the front mounted unit when dad was training me I was all worried he was going to yell as he was riding on back. After it was quiet for a while I wondered why he wasn't yelling and looked back ; he was already in the truck headed back , Guess I knew all I needed to know about cultivating . ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 7:02am
| Those are funny stories Pat. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 7:48am
| I dunno how you guys drove 'em....If your row spacing is set right, and cultivator rows match planter rows....I ripped out more corn looking behind me and "drifting" than I did looking forward. Kept the shotgun sight center of the rows and look ahead. A quick glance back every now and again to make sure nothing was broken, clogged, whatever surprises. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 12:19pm
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As long as you kept the tires where they belonged, the cultivator Was set up correctly and you stayed in the rows that were planted together, you didn't need to look back. But yeah the C with front mount was sweet. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 12:55pm
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Allis dave wrote:Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 2:26pm
| after a day on the front mount,l remember seeing corn rows flowing through the shields just walking through the yard to the house.....mind games... |
Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 9:40pm
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Never looked backwards, all of the "action" happened in front. The only thing that I ever took out was the outhouse. Front wheels tend to not turn on a narrow front in loose soil when you don't use the appropriate brake pedal. Still to this day I hear about how I took the outhouse out. Sigh.
------------- Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS" |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 10:04pm
Good excuse to update |