Small Square Baler
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Topic: Small Square Baler
Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Small Square Baler
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 2:44pm
What is a good cheap small square baler?
I have experience with AC 302 I remember the knotter worked good, would
use a shear bolt every now and then. I have been offered cheap use of local land.
a 19 acre, 8 acre, and 47 acre plot. All within 1/4 mile on back roads. But also a 34 acre
plot 2 miles away with people driving fast. Are there balers that transport (still towed by the tractor) as compact (narrow/not offset) as possible?
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 5:51pm
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New holland 66, 68, 269 273, all are pretty good small balers. All have a tongue that shifts to the left, for transport, but still take up most of a lane...
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 7:08pm
I've run a 273 for the last couple of years and am pleased with it. If I made enough hay to afford one I would look for an inline baler. I know Massey/Hesston and Case made/make them. A bit more expensive then the older NH but the inline's run in the upper 90's in strokes per minute where the 273 runs at 71 (or 73) strokes per minute. Also they tow right behind the tractor. No offset and no swingout tongue once in the field.
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Posted By: jjwo
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 7:10pm
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I know, wrong color, but I sure had good luck wit a JD 14T, not a 24T. If it missed a bale it was the twine caused it.
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 8:16pm
I bought an Oliver 62-T at an auction awhile back for $200 and it puts up a real nice bale
even had 4 balls of twine in the box.It'll also bale with the poly twine which a lot of older
balers won't do.You wouldn't go wrong with a JD 24T or 336.
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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 7:38am
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Thanks guys for the good info. I will start looking.
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Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 12:16pm
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My dad had both the JD 24th and the 336 both good bales. If you find one in good shape I prefer the 24th.
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 12:29pm
Look up parts prices and availability in your area first. I have a NH 565 baler myself. My neighbor had a nh 273 I have had him bale about 600 bales after mine broke down this summer. My fault on my baler I didn't realize that the knotter to cam drive gear having a little play was a bad thing I need to fix on an old baler. So check that they are tight or you will end up buying knotters.
I grew up with jd balers. My uncles and grandfather couldn't keep them tying knots for anything. Always having it stuck in the bill hook. I did alot of research before buying and best I could find JD or NH is ford or chevy. Some people like both. What I can tell you is if you plug up the feed head on a nh it is alot easier to clean out then the JD auger is to clean out. I can also tell you I like the design if the nh bill hook slightly better. The knotters are almost the same on both but I there are a few things nh did different that seem to limit the stuck on bill hook issues. The only ones I have had where when a knot at ye twine change over gets stuck. The big problem I have had with the nh is the dog springs getting weak and needing to be replace cheap easy fix.
Anyway for me ordering parts and having them shipped Messicks is quick and the price is right so I am glad I got the NH. I have a JD mower and everytime I order anything for that I wish I hadn't bought it.
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Posted By: albatros_3
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 12:36pm
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With that many acres, you might want to worry about capacity of the baler depending on your availability. Transportability, an inline baler is hard to beat. I'm currently using a New Holland 269 and it's a good little machine, but the narrow pickup is challenge sometimes. I wish the pickup was at least 6" wider and had more tines. I had a chance at a good CIH 8520 and NH 570 for good prices and still regret passing on them. Cost wise, NH 273s and JD 336s are fairly cheap around me. Every now and then a NH 315 will pop up cheap or a JD 337.
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 12:37pm
I will add an accumulator is priceless. I have the one below and love it best money I have spent. It puts them on their side. I wasn't sure I wanted bales on their side when I bought it. But you can leave them in the field over night that way without the baled getting nearly as wet they are fine the next morning. A blessing for me working alone. And they load ok on a trailer you just have to strap them down. I think the other style that lays them flat would load better but everyone here who tried those around me gave up on them because the gates to sort the bales gave too much trouble in the accumulator. The one I have is very simple two hydraulic cylinders one to kick the bales over one to dump the load.
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Posted By: Don (Utah)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 9:01pm
I had a NH 276 and was a great baler. Then a good deal on a 4570 heston that I got as is and rebuilt the pick up. I was good baler, liked it so well I traded for a new 4590 in 2002 and still don't miss any bales.
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