616 Throttle Control
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Topic: 616 Throttle Control
Posted By: V2Inc
Subject: 616 Throttle Control
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2016 at 2:57pm
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Gents, I have an Allis 616 which is in need of a throttle control. The ones I can find are for the 620 (2176647SM). My assumption is these part are interchangeable for the 616, 620 & 720, but we all know about assumptions. Can any one confirm that this throttle control will work on my 616? Much Appreciation, Ken ------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 7:18pm
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the good simplicity sites have been moved or retired. I used them alot several years ago but I have not been able to find them anymore. Jack's small engines can answer your question, they carry AC and Simplicity parts. I would say it would fit but it's better to make sure. They were practically the same except the added hp. Engine configuration was the same. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: V2Inc
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 5:03pm
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I called Sandy Lake and they said that the Throttle Cable is different between the 616 and the 620/720. I was able to get a used cable, but I am still in the market for a new one. Thanks for the help, I always willing to listen to what you folks have to say. Ken ------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
Posted By: Brad in WA
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 6:04pm
| 616 has down draft carb, 620 and 720 are side draft. |
Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 6:55am
| Is the throttle handle the same? |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 7:32am
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I was wondering myself, what the heck could be different about the cable assy's themselves. I've seen pics of the three different models and it looks to me that the control handles look the same. So even if the Carburetor was a down draft vs a side draft as Brad mentioned, I find it hard to believe that just the cable itself couldn't be replaced. I'm scratchin' the bald spot on my head wit' that one....? Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 8:55am
| cable housing measurement ? |
Posted By: V2Inc
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 4:06pm
I measured the cable length, it's about 51 inches. I wouldn't think the cable length would be a big problem so I'm inclined to think the throttle assembly is different. Also, the way the cable attaches to the assembly may be different.  ------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
Posted By: V2Inc
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 4:19pm
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------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
Posted By: V2Inc
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 4:21pm
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Don't know why my photo is so big, I just downloaded what was on my computer. If can help me out with loading smaller photos, let me know. ------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 7:38pm
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Jacks small engines is also another great source. Just ordered a hard to find tach cable for a AC5015 my brother in law is selling. Has a factory belly mower on it. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 7:33am
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Throttle cable on ebay, I think $15. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 7:35pm
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I have a question, is the cable broken or seized? The outer jacket is what is important here. If is seized, soak it in a parts washer for a few days. Dry it by compressed air which will force lots of grime out of it. Spray Kroil or PB blaster the entire length of the cable. May have to soak a day or so. It should free the inner cable. If the inner cable is broken, go to a lawn dealer and get a cable longer than you need. Snip crooked end attaching to engine side and pull the inner cable out and place that in the old inner jacket. Bend new crook to match old cable and length. I have used both methods to repair mine on different machines. Hope this helps. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: V2Inc
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:00am
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AC720Man, my cable is broken so your suggestion is so simple it's brilliant. I had a binding problem with my choke cable and soaked it in WD40, then worked it back and forth till it slide nice and easy, but didn't connect the dots on the throttle cable. Thanks for the help. Ken ------------- Allis Chalmers 616 w/60" Blade, 48" Rotary Tiller & Plow - Cool Man Stuff |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 3:49pm
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Your welcome, glad it worked. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: ac720nut
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 5:12pm
| I want to thank you to, choke cables been messed up since I bought my 720 and I've been putting off fixing but just pulled cable and slide new one in ,simple |