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Topic: hand clutch
Posted By: bs5230
Subject: hand clutch
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:09pm
hello, im having problems telling if the hand clutch is bad, on my WD-it spins with the motor running, and i have the tire jacked up off the ground-  i turn the tire and it will spin the shaft coming from the transmission/ rear end,  but when i put it in gear with it running the shaft is not spinning but the clutch is ??



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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:34pm
I don't understand what you are seeing spinning. You can't see the clutch spin. To find out which clutch is slipping( if you think one is) put the power take off in gear and put the tractor in 2nd or 3rd gear. Have somebody walk behind watching the PTO shaft while you drive forward stand on the brakes till something slips(if it will). If the PTO keeps turning and the tractor slows or stops with brakes, the hand clutch is slipping. If when the tractor slows or stops, the PTO also slows or stops, the foot clutch is slipping.

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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:46pm
hello  the tractor wont move at all, i took the cover off that is under the battery box and you can see the hand clutch


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:57pm
OK, with the tractor jacked up, in gear with the PTO in gear, if you start the engine and let the foot clutch out does the back wheel turn, does the PTO turn? The hand clutch has to pulled back toward the operator to engage it. With the hand clutch forward the back wheel should stop or at least not have full power to it.

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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 2:00pm
the tire will not turn, if i let the clutch out- nothing happens at all- with the foot or hand clutch.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 2:16pm
If nothing works with both clutches engaged and the transmission in gear, you have a problem in the engine(foot) clutch.

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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 2:19pm
would the hand clutch still be spinning though,i mean it is working back behind the foot clutch towards the hand clutch


Posted By: Burgie
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 2:37pm
Like Charlie says: have the foot clutch out and the hand clutch pulled back and the PTO engaged, start the tractor and if the pto don`t turn -----it is your foot clutch.

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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 2:52pm
ok, i just went out and fired her up--- clutch out, hand clutch engaged, pto on,,   started tractor and the pto is spinning


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 4:20pm
And if you have the transmission in any gear with both clutches engaged the wheels don't turn? 

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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 6:08pm
no they dont, the tractor will not wove or even try to.


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:02pm

Is the hand clutch pushed forward or pulled backward during the test you just described?



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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:23pm
pulled back----engaged


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:29pm

Rear wheels both on the ground?



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Posted By: bs5230
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 8:33pm
no i have the -- well if your sitting on the tractor,,, it would be the drivers side off the ground--its flat  got a new tire today- but dont wanna change it if the tractor is dead


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 26 May 2010 at 10:15pm
Hmmm... sounds like mebbie a broken axleshaft, or pinion gear, or diff carrier?



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