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Topic: WD/WD45 SC Arm Latches Needed
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Subject: WD/WD45 SC Arm Latches Needed
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 2:37pm
I'm looking for a set of latches for my WD45. Willing to rebuild. I saw the set on eBay - they are two styles and I'd like a matched set. I know....some people are just too fussy! Thanks.

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WC, CA, D14, WD45



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Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 4:00pm
there are more than 2 styles, some may have all variations. 4 or 5 I believe without loops, plus CA and 190. I am pretty sure you mean with and without the loop. 

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1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p.
1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe
1951 WD, factory p.s.
1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale
2014 HD Tri Glide
2009 GMC CC SLT Dually


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 4:07pm
Yes - of the pair advertised on eBay, one had the flap and the other had a square loop. I'd like to find a pair that would have been used on the WD45 and are of the same design.
Did some designs work better than others?


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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 4:16pm
I assume with each "revision" they were strengthened and improved. they were fabricated completely, fabbed and some parts cast(using up left over parts?), then both pieces cast, then loops added for rigidity with a bar. There are are probably other differences that experts can detail.
   I would like to know more about CA and 190. If 190 is bigger/rarer, I know where a 190 SC and 190XT are going to scrap.
    I mentioned this because you said 2 alike, you will have to look close in pictures


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1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p.
1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe
1951 WD, factory p.s.
1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale
2014 HD Tri Glide
2009 GMC CC SLT Dually


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 5:03pm
I have a set of HD latches with the bar for a 190/D19 and a matched set of WD/WD45 latches that can be for sale the old WD/WD45 latches need some work done to them and the price will flex this. LOL The 190/D19 latches are in grate shape and painted too.
Don


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 7:13pm
Don, I'm interested in the WD45 latches.....I'll send you a PM.

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:44am

Here's a picture of mine that I just redone.  Bought the latches on EBAY a year ago for 36 bucks. Sandblasted, painted (corp orange), added new hardware.  You can get the hardware in a kit from Mike Snyder in N Robinson, Ohio.  He is on this page every now and then.  Search ffor the kit on EBAY also



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'40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie

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Posted By: BobHnwO
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 9:56am
I got new springs for my lift latches at Ace Hardware,$4 bucks a pair.

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Why do today what you can put off til tomorrow.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 10:22am
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but, was the latch pictured(Larry's) only available after the D17 was introduced? I have a set of these on my 45. They came out of a shed where a 17 was stored along with a SC 9' blade.

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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 1:14pm
That's my plan, Larry. I'm not sure which design is correct for the '45, though, Charlie. I have the style Larry is showing on my D14.

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: daveingreenbay
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 1:43pm
Just checked my Feb. 1957 `45 parts book, and it shows 3 different designs used on the WD/ WD45.  The first design appears to be all steel, used prior to 1954.  The second design is steel with cast covers used Jan 54 thru March `55.  The third design is all cast, used April `55 thru June `56.  Hope this helps.  None have the bottom loops  as seen on the D17 for the solid  connecting bar between the latches.


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 2:16pm
Thanks, Dave - nice to have specific data on 'em.

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:14pm
Anyone who has a bunch of different ones should take pics and post them for each type.  Others people could keep adding more pics for the various types.  Then maybe we could convince Brian Ahart to put an lift arm latch ID section on his web site along with the tractor weights section.   Mike

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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 3:29pm
I have a number with out the loops for WD ect. May need springs and pins,$10.00 each. 785-353-2392 Thanks


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:19pm
Does anybody know if the ones like Larry's pic are cast or are they steel forgings? I don't see how cast would hold up very well.

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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 5:33pm
Larry's are cast, Here are the steel forginged units. Don


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:03pm
Dave,  here are more latch pictures .  Richard
 heavy ones like on a D17.  steel and cast on my WD45D, and lighter ones on D14


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:46pm
Don, I know what the steel ones look like although I never realized they put the "cast" cap on a steel base. I still can't believe the newer ones were cast iron. A forged steel part can look like a cast part depending on the condition of the dies, but if it is forged steel it would be way stronger. I guess I'll have to go do the grinding wheel test on the latches on the 45. Better yet, why doesn't someone voluteer to take their blue flame wrench to a set. If they don't cut up, we'll know they are cast Iron.


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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:27pm
Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Don, I know what the steel ones look like although I never realized they put the "cast" cap on a steel base. I still can't believe the newer ones were cast iron. A forged steel part can look like a cast part depending on the condition of the dies, but if it is forged steel it would be way stronger. I guess I'll have to go do the grinding wheel test on the latches on the 45. Better yet, why doesn't someone voluteer to take their blue flame wrench to a set. If they don't cut up, we'll know they are cast Iron.
They are cast steel not cast iron. I didn't mean to come across sounding like they where cast iron. Don


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 7:41pm
Always fascinating to see where these discussions go! I've learned more about latches than I ever expected. Thanks for all the posts, guys.

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 9:43am
From my WD-45 Parts Catalog; I believe my notations are correct.



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