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Topic: 8095
Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Subject: 8095
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:20pm
This has probably been discussed before on here but what is the story behind these tractors?



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Posted By: 8050/8030/185
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:36pm
This Demo tractor was ACs try at the first over 200hp tractor on the market in the FWA tractors. It would have made if it would have stayed AC. Deutz bought and Destroyed every thing AC. Gleaner was down graded with the Deutz air-cooled engine. As much we(including myself complain) about AGCO they did breathe life back into AC and Gleaner.


Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:59pm
What motor was offered in them


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by 8050/8030/185 8050/8030/185 wrote:

This Demo tractor was ACs try at the first over 200hp tractor on the market in the FWA tractors. It would have made if it would have stayed AC. Deutz bought and Destroyed every thing AC. Gleaner was down graded with the Deutz air-cooled engine. As much we(including myself complain) about AGCO they did breathe life back into AC and Gleaner.


The only company with more crazy ideas than Agco was Duetz.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: 8050/8030/185
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 10:48pm
They had to lengthen the frame and had a Komatsu 6cyl in there. only three were built and they were replaced with Cummins when AC went down.


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 12:58am
Yuck! Why would A-C choose Komatsu over their own A-C engines????


Posted By: screwloose
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 3:31am
Komatsu is either the first or second largest company in mining. Can't be much wrong with their engines. I had a Komatsu track loader and it was a great machine.
Deutz, I don't know what is wrong with their engines either. I had a skid steer loader with a deutz and it was a great machine.


Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 6:58am
Four were built. Would have been the industries first 200 pto horse power tractor.

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8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more!
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Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 7:48am
Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Yuck! Why would A-C choose Komatsu over their own A-C engines????

This is talked about in Norm Swinford's book. The 301 and 426 were already 20+ years old in 1985. Engine line needed to be updated but with cost of developing a new engine line and expected sales volume they probably would have sourced engines from outside supplier.


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 8:31am
Hunley Farms





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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 8:35am
Another link

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68801&title=8095-mfwd-prototype" rel="nofollow - http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68801&title=8095-mfwd-prototype




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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 8:36am
and another



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 11:04am
Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

and another




Is that a Deutz engine??


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 11:13am
Looks like one



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