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Topic: front clutch question
Posted By: coggonobrien
Subject: front clutch question
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 7:23am
I noticed when my mower belt was off my 616 when I would shut my engine off the clutch pull would continue to spin for a while.  I could engage the clutch and stop it and when the deck is on it does not spin.  Does this sound to you like I have a clutch bearing starting to go out?



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Posted By: Chuck...the Janitor
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 8:18am
My 616 did the same thing last summer when i had the deck off to replace belts. I'm interested in the answer to this as well.

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Posted By: rrhead(SD)
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 8:35am
My 720 does the same thing. Haven't used the mower yet. Someone told me it would be fine if deck was on. rrhead(SD)

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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:03am
yeah with the deck on it does not turn.  i just figured i'd better check before something goes boom and is a lot more expensive.


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:18am
My 620 does the same thing.  It spins, but there is no wobble to it, so I think it should be fine.

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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:21am
10-4


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:41am
OK there is a bearing inside that clutch to support the belt sheave so when mower belt in on the sheave will allow motor to turn without powering belt .
When magnet is energised - it locks sheave to drive plate - taking the need for the bearing out of loop .
 Now the bearing has internal resistance to being at rest - FRICTION - of balls and grease within the bearing - normal and natural - now when belts are in place - that resistance overcomes the friction drag so pulley is stationary and does not spin with motor . 
 With belts off y you should be able to turn sheave easily with little resistance and no rough feel or noise - checking the baring in this manner - bearing is replaceable also - wobble in sheave - bearing would have to be real bad - so look for other problem other than bearing - if a problem at all .  


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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 6:49am
gotcha, no death wobble=probably ok.  Thanks Coke!



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