Anyone ever feel like CA is just the best tractor?
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Topic: Anyone ever feel like CA is just the best tractor?
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Subject: Anyone ever feel like CA is just the best tractor?
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:06pm
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Ever been running a CA and notice how they're just the best in some way. Just they way they feel and run. They're so small yet have a decent amount of power. I know the CA is my grandpa's favorite. He's 87 and still uses it every year to drill wheat and oats (with our antique Ontario grain drill). I was just running one of our three today because my nephew wanted to ride it. I pulled our little 4 foot spring tooth drag with it just for fun. There's just something about the CA. Anyone else agree? Preparing the grain drill:  Tyler on the CA with the little drag:  We also still use one or two CA's with our two row cultivators. We use the D15 on our rear mount four row cultivator. We also spread hay seed with it:  And sometimes pull the 12 foot roller after drilling wheat/oats; it WILL pull it in raw ground after plowing but it REALLY works it:  Here it is with a belly mount bean puller:  And here it is with a belly mount 6 foot mower deck; this is what we mow lawn with:  I would think that this plus the fact that ALL we own and farm with are pre 1970s Allis Chalmers would really be catching some people's attention and would be driving some of you Allis fans nuts.  :D :D :D  Also, I forgot we have a G too. I changed my signature lol:  ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
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Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:38pm
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All I can say is, I am trying to know what it is like !!!
------------- 1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:47pm
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What do you mean; you've never been on a CA? ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:52pm
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lots of younger time on a B, I would strongly consider a CA now if it was not a major road trip to get. I think I can swing it because she said it is a "cute" little tractor, but I will have to a bench seat for wife and grandson !! are those rubber drill tires? ------------- 1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:55pm
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Hey on your post it says "edited by bigfish". can you edit your posts? I looked for that because I made a mistake on a post and wanted to fix it but couldn't find the option. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:56pm
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Yes they are rubber drill tires. Big metal spokes. I don't know the year but it's damn old. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:56pm
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That's why the old timers say that the CA stood for Cat's A%!.
I had to do it that way. The moderator doesn't like the letter A with two $$ after it.LOL |
Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:58pm
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click on post options, I think you have a time limit
------------- 1941 WC sat for 29 years,started & dynoed 27 h.p. 1957 WD45 Grandpa bought new,factory p.s.,added wfe 1951 WD, factory p.s. 1960 D14 HnMk IV BkHoe 4 sale 2014 HD Tri Glide 2009 GMC CC SLT Dually |
Posted By: MilesGray (CO/KS)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:02pm
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DC,
Under post options it gives you the option to edit your post.
Just go to your last post and click on it to change. ------------- Miles Gray (CO/KS) 5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy! |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:19pm
| I don't know about a CA, I've never been on one. I love my little C though, especially since I got the cultivators on it and I can tear up(I mean cultivate) something. I've run some of the 100 series tractors(160, 180), but my favorite is still the C. Easy to steer, easy to maneuver, plenty of power for the small stuff, hydraulics, and good visibility. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:35pm
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I used to love my CA until today...it normally runs perfect, but I took it to a local show today and all it did was cough and sputter....made me and AC look bad...guess it is murphy's law. Even my IB didn't like the show....oh well.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:59pm
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Hey I thought I posted a reply that said "oh i can't believe i didn't notice that" about being able to edit posts. Whatever. Hey, I thought people would have thought something about an all allis farm. Guess not. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 11:09pm
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Yep, the CA is a great little tractor. Work all day on a little gas, 4 speed tranny, hand clutch, WD style hydraulic pump, traction booster, PAW's. What did I miss. Oh I miss my CA cause it's in the shed needing a thrust bearing and that won't get done till I can rebuild the whole engine. Oh well I can still play with the G,the B,and the 45.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 11:35pm
| On your Ontario grain drill open the 2 front doors on top. Now facing the rear of the drill where the front doors meet the rear doors dead center the numbers there will be the year it was made. If there is a 55 it was made in 1955. |
Posted By: AllisTime
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 12:29am
| I think it is great Danial, that you have an all Allis farm, I'm sure the other guys do to but they all got cought up on the CA or the other stories....I love the little CA's we have one wide and one narrow front, they are just so handy to do most smaller jobs and some bigger jobs at times to,,,Wayne!! |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 12:39am
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I believe I have pictures of those instructions and model information stuff on Flickr. I know I took pictures of the area you're talking about. Grrr no they must not have come out good so I didn't upload them; good luck to me finding them on my computer! But not to be a total let down here's a picture for ya:  Not only is it crazy for the tractor, it's snowing out and I just took this 5 minutes ago. It's the middle of May and it's snowing out. In March, it hit NINETY in Penn Yan. Now it's May and it's freezing out, windy as hell, and snowing. It's actually accumulating on some things, too. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 6:44am
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Daniel, I have driven most Allis tractors but have never had any experience with a CA so can't comment. Do I see a BIDWELL or BOB 44 bean combine in your shed? I've grown edible beans for years and had a BOB 666 combine from Stanley New York. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 6:53am
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That G might be the cat's anus too, but I don't think the biplane wings are gonna fly.
And yes I am very jealous of all the ac s you have.
I really like that one... looks like a newer D- something or other you got sitting there in the one picture.
Someone mentioned a C or CA having hydraulics... exactly wht kind of hydraulics do they have... can you hook up hydraulic hoses to them?
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 6:58am
| CA is a fine tractor, but, getting on and off is a chore, bounce around on that seat like your going to fall off all the time, they like to buck like a rocking horse. When you get old, you will be jumping on a D-series/100 series before the old CA if you want a nice ride. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 8:06am
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realolman, my CA has one hydraulic outlet mounted under the seat in addition to the SC system. ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: RMD
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:56am
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I grew up with CA's, but I take my D-12 series II with true independent hydraulics and PTO over the CA any day. I remember pushing snow with a back blade and a CA - push back, pushing the clutch to stop, take it out of gear and let the clutch out to lift the blade, push the clutch back in to put it in gear to move forward. Get' s old after a while. |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 1:15pm
And the wings on the G, that's actually a seat someone half assed made for it. I took it off right after I took that. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 1:17pm
| Daniel Yes the CA is a great tractor!!! thankyou for sharing the pics. Mark L |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 1:53pm
Daniel, go to photobucket. Create an account. Then you can upload all of the pics u want. Go to your albums after u finish uploading. Scroll over the image, a drop down should appear with options. Left click on the one for image code, then right click and copy. Then go back over to your post and paste. Works great and you don't have to resize before you post. That's my '46 C, by the way. Name's Mistress, cause my wife don't like her and she makes me spend all my money on her.LOL!
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 1:57pm
| Umm, so what's up with the "stealth muffler" setup on the G? Watch out for overhead power lines buddy!LOL! |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 3:16pm
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Hahaha I like to sneak around. lol I never actually got it going that night so i don't know how quiet it would be. I am Daniel Christensen on Flickr, believe me I know about photo uploading. I was asking about uploading on THIS site. If there was a good place. I have reached my limit apparently for the photo upload space used when you click the insert photo icon here in the forums, wherever that location is, I have reached the limit. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:43pm
| The CA is my reason for dumping all my Red stuff. Great little tractor. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:49pm
| I thought so too until the last tractor pull. I my best CA got outpulled by a D12 and a Grey one and a green and yellow one in 3500 stock class |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:57pm
| Hey Eldon, Don't feel so bad. The same thing happened to me yesterday. Emptied the float bowl out before I left because it had a tiny bit of water in it. Got to the show and all it did was cough and sputter. Oh well. Guess I'll have to take the fuel line off and look at the carb and do some investigating. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:04pm
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Eldon and Morton, You ever notice how there has to be at least a dozen people watching close when those things happen? ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:35pm
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Well my favorite little allis now is my D14 with power steering. I had to put an extended eye on my sc allcrop drill to be able to hook it up, but it handled it so much better than the CA....better hydraulic control, no tire rubbing, more gear selections, high low, easier to get off the tractor to check things, more comfortable.....never thought I'd pick a D14 over the D17, but this tractor is really growing on me. it is also my corn and bean planting tractor this year. ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 10:44pm
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We plant with our D14, too. We use an International 4 row planter. We cultiave with the D15 and a 4 row cultivator and we have 2 two row cultivators for 2 of our 3 CA's. Hey! Actually we just put it on today. I forgot to take a picture! Back in 5 lol. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 7:59am
I don't understand? Why not use the hand clutch? Sure you have to pull it and reach around with your left hand to operate the hydraulics but it sure works well, I use it to plow gardens and it works wonderfull for insuring you stop in lift in exactly the same spot every time. I don't understand the gentleman that is bouncing around either. My CA's ride is quite nice. Maybe the shock absorber in the center of the spring was bad on yours? Things loose and wore out? I have rode a D series with a real sloppy seat that wiggled all over the place, felt like one of those bobble head dolls, but admit one that is tight is quite nice. I love my CA, never had a more manuverable and handy chore tractor. My other color tractors sit unused now. I do admit its a pain to mount. |
RMD wrote:Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:15am
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I'm with you firebrick, if a guy put the hand clutch on the left side like Dennis A did, you can easily stop with the hand clutch and raise the blade with your right hand.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:53am
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Asking if the CA (or any other model AC tractor) is "the best tractor" is like asking what is better, a Ford or a Chevy. That said, I really like the CA, it is the little Allis with the big Allis features (4 speed tranny, PAW rear rims, "live power" via the hand clutch, "traction booster", and the same hydaulic pump that is one the WD/WD45). A sweet machine pulling a 2X14 SC plow and mowing grass with a 6' Woods mower (my CA is down for awhile until I get a chance to rebuild the hand clutch). I have fabricated a step from diamond plate that bolts onto the left side front platorm support bar and fender/platform support rail to make the access more civilized.
Am attaching a link to an article on the B,C ,and CA model tractors....a good read for those who like the little AC's. It is a Microsoft Word document.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~garosier/Little%20ACs.doc - http://www.frontiernet.net/~garosier/Little%20ACs.doc ------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 6:08pm
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The close relative of the CA gets my vote. That's the D14. The first time I drove one I thought "why would anyone want anything more". Wish I had one. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:43pm
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We snowplow and plant with one of our D14's; the other we don't do much with but spread manure. You seem to have a lot of Allis's judging by your signature; why not just get a D14? ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:52pm
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DC, on the posting thing, I ran into the same problem you had. Not much room to upload on here. Will fill up quickly. Also have to resize evrything just so. I much prefer the copy/paste option with separate sites. Just open another browser tab, I always upload everything I want before I get on here, so I can just click back and forth. Works good for me, but then i'm not that computer savvy.
On the CA thing, I have looked at a few. They seem to be excellent little tractors, but I sure would like the power steering option of a D-series. Maybe i'm just lazy.LOL!
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Posted By: RMD
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 10:21pm
| Firebrick43 - you must have some log arms with extra elbows if you can work the hydraulic lever on a CA with your left hand while you are holding the hand clutch with your right. You can do those things on a WD maybe, since the hydraulics are on the steering column, but not on a CA. And you still need to be working the foot clutch to change from reverse to forward. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 7:45am
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RMD, Actually it would be very easy. If you are backing up pushing snow(something I hardly ever do) when you get to the point you want to stop and raise the blade you push in the foot clutch, shift to 2nd gear raise the hydraulic lever, pull the hand clutch and let out the foot clutch. When the blade comes up you let go of the hand clutch.
After typing that all out I think what a guy needs is a shuttle clutch. Now that would be easy. Guess I'll have to convince my wife she needs a D series for her birthday. LOL ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 9:24am
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I always heard the hand clutch in the CA was weak. Dad told us to never touch it! ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 2:11pm
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Yeah the hand clutch on the CA is iffy. I almost never use it. Except for mowing lawn and still I try to have to use it minimally and try to never have to back up especilly. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |