185 frame supposed to have threaded holes?
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Topic: 185 frame supposed to have threaded holes?
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Subject: 185 frame supposed to have threaded holes?
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 11:15pm
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On the frame of my 185 by the engine it looks like the bolt holes have been painted such that the insides of the holes are smooth. Too smoothe to just be one layer of paint filling in the threads. I know these holes are threaded on most Allis Chalmers because we mount stone boxes on them just by taking an every day bolt and threading it in. I want to build stone boxes for my 185 and Ultimate Drag, and it's not like it would slow me down obviously, but I was just wondering if they are supposed to be threaded holes or not. I'm pretty sure they are and they're just painted over, but there is not even a sign of threads. ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
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Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 5:56am
| No the holes in the frame rails are not threaded. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:43am
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I have never seen an Allis with threaded holes in a frame rail. The front bolster, between the frame rails on the W series tractors is threaded. Threads should be a minimum of 1 1/2 times the bolt diameter deep and a frame rail isn't thick enough to have that many threads. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:54am
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D14 and D15's had the threaded holes.
I am not sure if the D17's have or have not, will check today on my D17.
-not sure if the 170's have or not have and my 185 does not have
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Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 7:07am
Oh, then must be we threaded the holes on our D17's. Come to think of it, the D19 stone box doesn't use the frame rail holes at all. It uses "hangers" that go around the hole top of the frame rails, almost like a hand clamped to the frame. See: BUT, the D17 stone box here is def threaded into the frame, so is the snowplow we made for it. Believe me there there are no nuts on the other side of those bolts. Simply threaded right in to the frame; it's nice and convenient.  And our D14 which we also made a snow plow for; threaded:  ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 7:15am
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D17's have threaded holes in the side frames. I clearly remember that to mount the front cultivator and the cornpicker. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 7:27am
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It wouldn't be hard to tap out the holes that are there in you 185.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 7:34am
| Daniel, the little tyke there looks ready to defend HIS D17, no one dare to come near! |
Posted By: Daniel Christensen
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 8:06am
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I knew it. Look at the front hole in the D14 where the snow plow is mounted, if it wasn't threaded there's NO WAY you could get a nut or let alone a wrench back there lol. No way you could get on that one from the back! ------------- CAx3, Bx2, G, D17x2, D14x2, D15, D19, 190XT, WC, WD-45, 185, Gleaner K. |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 8:48am
| My D17 IV has threaded holes on the rail. Clearly remember, as one had a broken bolt in it that had to be removed and rethreaded before I could put the loader bracket on. |