Rake Model?
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Topic: Rake Model?
Posted By: AJ
Subject: Rake Model?
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 1:05pm
Can anyone tell me what model rake this is? I can't find an ID tag anywhere or anything.   ------------- Can't fix stupid |
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 1:09pm
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I'm not the expert on the newer rakes, but my guess is that since it's a 4 bar one it is a 77G
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Posted By: Bill Deppe/AC Salvag
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 1:13pm
| Agree with PaulB, have a couple that I use and added the fifth bar |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 1:51pm
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yes it is a 77G......The model 78G had a crooked rear axel..77 Is straight. and it could of been either a 4 or 5 bar, the 5 bar was a option.............I have a 77G, and just bought another one this morning. ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 2:58pm
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Was that the only difference between the two was the rear axles? This one needs a part or two for the drive pulley. Anyone have any parts for them? ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 3:21pm
------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
AJ wrote:Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 3:26pm
Here is a pic. of my 77G.... ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 3:51pm
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Does anyone have a dealer PDF parts manual they could email me? What were the factory tire size for these? ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 5:01pm
| The purpose of the offset(crooked) axle is by being closer to the basket it will follow ground contour better. At least that's what NH said when they went to the offset axle. I've used both styles of NH rakes and see very little difference. I would like to have a AC rake but since parts are impossible to find I will stick to my old NH 55 rake. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 5:12pm
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My neighbor has a 77 rake and the clutch is shot on it. They put a hose clamp on it to keep it engaged and just derail the belt to take it down the road if they have to. I've been after him for years to let me tear it apart and make a new clutch for it. He just says , "it's no big deal, works OK like it is."
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 6:12pm
------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 6:20pm
  Here is a pic of the one I bought today, I got lucky it has a good clutch.------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 6:49pm
| Well, per my 77G manual, it lists tire sizes as: 5x15, 5.90x15, 6.40x15 and 6.70x15. I'd have to go out and look at mine to see what size tires are on it, if you are interested. Let me know. Dave |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 9:41pm
 Here is a pic of a 78G------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 5:33am
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You have the later model 77G as others have said because it has the belt drive like the 78G. The early 77G had a chain drive to a gearbox that was on the basket similar the the New Holland setup. HTH. Don Jr. |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:15am
------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 3:55pm
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I put the 5th bar in my 77G, then went to larger tires. Better traction, and it slowed the rake a bit which was OK with the fifth bar. I had the same problem with the clutch wearing out and solved it the same way. I used muffler clamps and took them loose when I needed to go down the road. I also have a 77M with all new teeth. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 6:42pm
| I checked the tire sizes on my 77G rake. One was apparently an old vehicle P195/75-R15 and the other an old truck tire 78-15. I don't know how all these crazy tire sizes translate, but the 78-15 stands a little higher than the other throwing off the level adjustment. I also have a 77M. The tires were shot on it when I got it and I found a couple NOS 16x6.50-8 tires and put them on. Manual says to use a 4.0 - 8 size tire, so don't know how this affects the operation of the rake. I have had trouble with the lift arms of the rake popping out of the tractor lift arm latches. Don't know if this is due to uneven ground surface, tires/tire adjustment or something else, but usually just use my 77G instead. It is a nice working rake. Dave |
Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 6:47am
| We had one that looked just like that except it was chain drive, good ole rake, sold it to a man down the road, still going strong. |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 10:39am
| Yeah, my 77G is chain drive. Why did they change that and go to belt drive? Always kinda wondered why. Dave |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 4:46pm
Maybe a couple reasons, cheaper first and second, it might lend to a "softer" drive in case something needed to slip. Just my guess. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 7:01pm
Some pix of the 77M     |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 7:09pm
77G with chain drive    
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2016 at 8:17pm
You can change the speed of a belt drive by moving shims on the sheaves. HTH Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |