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What is a "Buda" engine?

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Topic: What is a "Buda" engine?

Posted By: Rich-MN
Subject: What is a "Buda" engine?
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:19pm

Some place along the line by memory failed me ( again) concerning what was a Buda engine... I have seen this engine mentioned quite a few times before on this forum.

Thanks Rich-MN

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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:24pm

Yeah, i'm with Rich. Always wanted to know, but was afraid to ask. Was Buda a manufacturer contracted by AC, or is Buda an abbreviation for something made by AC?

Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:24pm

Here is some reading for ya.

http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Buda_Engine_Co. - http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Buda_Engine_Co.

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Posted By: Farrell(Utah)
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:28pm

Buda was a longtime manufacturer of gas and diesel engines. AC acquired Buda and installed the 230 diesel in the WD45. Later, the larger version of the motor was used in the D17 and D19.

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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:32pm

OK. So AC bought Buda, kinda like Gleaner. It was a good opportunity. Buda was probably going downhill, judging from some of the dates that they produced engines for other customers. Looks like the depression took a toll on them. AC came in and kept them going for awhile, even though it was under different ownership.

Posted By: Rich-MN
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:34pm

Clint: Thanks...went through the listings and seen where Oliver and Cockshutt had them but did not see any Allis application.. I thought ( my memory againn!!!) that some of the guys on the Allis side of the house said that they had them in their machines...

Posted By: Rich-MN
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:35pm

OK I stand corrected about the Allis question...when I finished up the other posting the answer was spelled out by Mr.Farrell in Utah...

Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 9:42pm

THe HD 16 and HD 21 dozers use the 844 cubic inch straight 6 motor. The older guys at the plant called them "Buda".... Also heard that after the war AC was shopping to buy a big diesel manufacturer. GUys use to say they looked at Cummins and Buda... and eventually picked BUda!

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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 10:12pm

i knew a gal once that they called "buda"!!! she was...uh....nevermind!!

Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 12:48am

If you look at the commercial 230 cu. Buda engine, they were ran at 2700 rpm with load at 2400 @ 72hp. Those engines would practically run forever on rock crushers or what have you but the same engine got put in the WD45 and was slowed down to 1650 rpm @ 45hp and they basically were overloaded from the getgo and did not last like the industrials did. (rpms and hp. are from memory ut think that is pretty close to the right numbers)

Posted By: pineyjd
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 5:30am

When I was in navy (58-62) we had buda diesel in our lifeboats/whaleboat,shot of ether & they would start right up down in antartic & greenland

Posted By: Kipn
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 8:59am

I thought that Allis bought Buda because Detroit wouldn't supply them with motors anymore. Hence the difference in the HD6 and HD7, and I think the HD10 and HD11.

I could be wrong.

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Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 10:08am

After AC bought Buda the factory became the Harvey Engine Works. The 301, 426,731 were all produced at Harvey Factory at Harvey Illinois. I dont know if the remaining 226 and 149s and 160s were produced at Harvey. HTH

Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2010 at 12:51pm

I think it's in Norm Swinford's book that when GM got into the earth moving business, A-C took it as GM being in direct competition with them decided to get their own source of diesel engines. Also, the size of the GM 2 stroke diesels were physically too large to fit into any of A-C's farm tractors of the day. I'd be interested to know if all of A-C's West Allis built gasoline engines got sent to Harvey works too.

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