All WD radiator Shrouds have Wasps Nests?
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Topic: All WD radiator Shrouds have Wasps Nests?
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Subject: All WD radiator Shrouds have Wasps Nests?
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 8:01am
| Picked up four shrouds for the WDs, all of which came from salvage reactors, makes you wonder what lives in running tractors.... |
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 9:59am
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LOTS of mice........
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: GaryL
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 10:04am
| Anything that sits for too long (maybe a day or more) where I live will spawn mud dobber nests with a quickness. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2015 at 10:06am
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buzzing wasps give added cooling mouse nests give added warmth... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2015 at 12:28pm
| I hand cranked a WD45 with a dead battery and an active wasps nest. Was sure glad when it started! It sucked those wasps tight against the radiator. When I got done bush hogging with it half an hour later, they were still alive and really angry! |
Posted By: FHOliver
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2015 at 2:16pm
| They find lots of spots, like in the brake drum and when you move they come out of the little hole and right up your pants leg. wow they never seem too happy either ! |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2015 at 2:23pm
| Lol |
Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 9:32pm
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yes, they also like the air cleaner in addition to the already pointed out brakes area. Oh, and toolboxes
A quick fix for the brake hole is to shoot a good shot of ether in there early in the morning. ------------- Thanks Most Bad Government has grown out of Too Much Government- Thomas Jefferson |
Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 10:36pm
| Lol on the brake hole. Never thought of that. My recent terror was a folded up umbrella on my wd. I hate wasps. How about outdoor fuse panels? |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 9:14am
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Wasp and mouse-nests are standard-from-factory features on all farm machinery. The original name WaspNest was actually developed as the "Automatic Security System' (A.S.S.), while MouseNest was developed under the moniker of 'Passive Intentional Security System' (P.I.S.S.). The concept of A.S.S. was nothing more than to discourage a thief or vandal from approaching a protected piece of equipment. The concept of P.I.S.S. was to render the equipment unuseable by either disabling critical electrical functions, or locking brakes, and finally, if there's any owner's manual or documentation that could be stolen, to automatically 'encrypt' it into a form permanently illegible by anyone. IMO, it's an extremely annoying feature... like the 'back up assist' and 'automatic traction control' and 'anti-lock brakes' of my new truck, the 'wasp nest' feature, BOTH A.S.S. and P.I.S.S. are essentially ineffective against theives and vandals, and most discouraging to the actual owner. While it's not posted on the sticker, one can request the "Wasp-Nest Delete" or "Mouse-Nest Delete" as a special order performed by the dealership, but like your satellite radio and extended coverage warranty, it's a 'subscription' service that cannot actually ever be permanently 'removed'... it's a process that must be repeated regularly, which is very annoying, and very expensive, so most wind up performing the delete procedure themselves. Some go to great lengths to disable A.S.S. and P.I.S.S., including, but not limited to, moving the most prized equipment into air-tight armored steel protective containers, however, this isn't always entirely effective. Regularly using the machinery TENDS to reduce the occurrance of system activation. The marketing decision to incorporate A.S.S. and P.I.S.S. into all farm equipment is a plot by green-commie antivegetarian wikken alien frog-people, to bring down our society while they promolugate crop circles, loofa, and overpriced craft beer. BTW... Happy New Year!  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: A-C 608 ltd
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 10:49am
Another thing I've found is shoot it with WD-40 which kills the wasps almost instantly. Also it keeps them away for about a year. It's always worked for me. |
WC7610 wrote:Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 4:52pm
| Pressure wash the tractor with a little bleach mixed in just don't get bleach on your wires as it isn't good on insulation but it will break down the sent trails all those critters use to mark your tractor as a good place to make their home. Brake cleaner is the best for killing wasps they fall right out of mid flight dead by the time they hit the ground. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 6:09pm
| I split a junker D-12, middle of the summer and found a whole colony of little bumble bees ( the stingin kind) that had moved into an old mouse nest there... |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 6:25pm
| I've found wasps under seats before. |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 6:42pm
| Now I start to wonder what's under my AC B? |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 11:02am
Sheesh... all that effort to shed a candle upon the minute realities of life, and it didn't so much as summon one razzberry...  Guess I better not quit my day-job... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Rltool
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 11:33am
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I liked it Dave. Good reading. I understand the factory implemented systems a little more now. This appears to be a deep subject for you. Or just plane DEEP something! Ray W. |
Posted By: D17JIM2
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 2:22pm
| I had a huge nest of wasps in the little dome of a LP storage tank. Really ticked them off too when I opened it !! |
Posted By: Brian-KS
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 2:47pm
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twine box on the baler is always a good hiding place for wasps .... I keep a can of wasp spray on the tractor because you never know where they will come from next!
------------- EAT BEEF! |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 2:51pm
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Battery boxes on the HD11 is another place they pleasantly surprise you. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 4:13pm
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I spray painted barns part time one summer. I learned how to fix those flying varmints, while up up a lader, just give them a shot of paint. It sticks there wings together and knots them out of the sky real quick. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 5:15pm
| Drove to central Wisconsin today, climbed over 5 WD-45 getting some parts! No wasps! Should say we just got about 10 inches of snow, and in the mid 30s today! Perhaps tractor salvage is a winter activity.... |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 5:19pm
Most certainly! That goes for COMBINES too!!! Rattlesnakes LOVE to hide in those things!!
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 5:40pm
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Sorta' gives a new meaning to the saying: "working the bugs out". I've found to, that Brakekleen is better than any flying insect repellant known to man. As a matter of fact, it works great on any insects, especially the giant ones that look like they should have license plates on them! Its also awesome for removing grease out of the office carpet or your velour interior in your vehicle without a trace. (don't ask me why I know this) With mice, its always amazed me that when they have a steady diet of your wiring system, why they don't S*%t colored turds? Oh well... back to work. ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2015 at 8:45pm
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They do Steve, it's black or brown! And that is cute!! Working the bugs out!! Dave Kamp, you have TOO much time to sit and think... or maybe not... Is this "thoughts 2 from the pot"??  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 3:32am
| Maybe that's why I don't pick the donut with sprinkles? |
Posted By: cosborn
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 9:18am
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Paintball marker. Good old reliable cci phantom 12gram. Wasp nest, flying rats and red doted spiders. Also works on the wayward chicken when it fines the garden patch, Just rember to aim at the feet more!! :) Ive gotten really acurte with that thing this past year. No stings. And about five cans of spray. ;p ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 3:49pm
LMAO!!! Really, Steve... you'd think that to survive, they'd at least be more positive, than negative... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 4:19pm
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The MOST entertaining post so far this year ! Yes Brake clean, even the trichlor free stuff kills flying things fast. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 5:55pm
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So I did see a lot of mouse nests as I worked on the rear ends of the WD's. But the most unkindly act of tractor terrorism was a lowly robin that built a nest of small sticks, twine, dry grass, leaves and other combustible items that made just a wonderful smokey fire as I was working the old WD this summer. Well now, I would have traded that moment for a couple good bees stings any day. Just so happened that I got slowed down quick and did a prompt dismount to see what that smoke, wait, by now it was a small birds nest inferno on top of the valve cover, up under the hood, next to the gas tank! Well them robins sure know how to plant the seeds of terror. As I was pretty much deciding if it was going to burn up or was I brave enough to snuff the blaze? Wearing gloves helped and I dug out the chaff filled fire ball and extinguished the nest, which seemed to be half the size of a bale of hay! Whew that was close! They came back and built it again in a week. I was ready for them that time and as the pesky robin took flight I gave it a real talking too. So watch out for the WD, bird house scenario! Very dangerous! Probably could have won $10,000 on AFV. But was not funny at the time. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2016 at 7:51pm
| Wow Chris you are almost making me glad that I keep having to take the hood off and charge the battery on my d17 atleast I would see the nest before I start it up. That would have scared the crap out of me. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2016 at 8:47am
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I'd a liked to see that Chris!! Robins can be the WORST PESTS..... tear a nest down, they come back to rebuild MANY times. They'll finally move to someplace else you don't want em either........ WHY CAN'T THEY PUT the nest in the trees??? Like ordinary robins/birds do? Every year they come back and want to rebuild in the same spot. Even if you move the tractor, they find it. Might have to resort to a more permanent plan of action...
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Karl in MD
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 2:45pm
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Speaking of fires: i got off my farmall M one day, and stuffed the seat cushion up under the hood so it wouldnt get wet. Guess what I forgot the next time i started it? Do you know how bad a foam and canvas cushion smells when it smoulders on an exhaust manifold? You don't forget that smell for a long tiime.... ------------- A man's got to know his limitations. '51 WD, Roto-Baler,, A-C rake, '44 C, '42 B |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 2:47pm
| Bet you didn't forget the next seat cover either.... |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 5:59pm
| Can't wait to get my WD rolling! So will have stories of my own from attacks from wildlife! |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 7:35pm
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Barn swallows are almost as bad as those robins about putting nests where you don't want them. They will plaster the siding under the eaves with mud and poop. I kept knocking one nest down for a week before they gave up. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 7:40pm
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But speaking of attacking stinging pests, I will never forget many years ago riding with my uncle mowing hay and we stirred up a bumble bee nest. As soon as we saw the bees were unhappy, he kicked the power director to neutral and yelled RUN! Fortunately the bees attacked the tractor and not us. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 11:07am
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Maybe build a couple of Robin nesting shielders from these plans, and hope the use them instead of where you don't want them. Also the Barn Swallow is very good at catching mosquitoes. ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: A-C 608 ltd
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2016 at 5:59am
| Sparrows are the same way as barn swallows and robins. One day I left the 7080 outside to give it a bath as it was raining and the next day I start it up 6 Sparrows fly out from under the hood. |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2016 at 9:16am
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First WD I got was down the road about 8 miles. Stuck NF and free. Pulled it home on the back roads. Couldn't go over 5 mph because the front wobbled so bad and there was no seat spring around the seat shock. FIL was on the tractor and was screaming like a banshee. Once it got to shaking real bad it stirred up a nest of yellow jackets under the gauge cluster box. He bailed off of it and it was my turn then. I'm not allergic and he was. That was a long ride. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2016 at 9:24am
| Sounds to me like you paid a very high price for that tractor. I would have unhooked it and gone to get a couple of cans of spray to kill them. I typically bring a can if I am going to look at something that has been sitting like that. I have never been stung and don't really want to be stung. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2016 at 6:50am
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Yeah, Yellow Jackets are bad news in our neck of the woods here in Jersey. You gotta' be real careful around grille shells and final drives during the summer months. Last summer I needed to use the loader on the B. Fired the B up and started to move. Got about 5 feet and the next thing I know I have a black cloud of Yellow jackets flying around nailing me left n' right. Hit the Ignition switch, and boy, did I bail off of the ole' B man! Saw they were coming outta' the right final brake area. I fixed their Yellow Jacket a$$es' and emptied a can of Brakekeen in that final after they settled down. They were flying out and droppin' to the ground. Good ole' Brakekleen man. The best insect repellent... ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: JakeWI
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2016 at 7:44pm
| Wasps like to make nests under lift arm latches around here. |
Posted By: BradH
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2016 at 9:11pm
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The lift arm latches on my WD 45 I just got were packed full of mud dobber nests. Lots of fun cleaning that mess out. We once had a home security system of the A.S.S. variety. Wasps built a huge nest under the awning above the back door. Couldn't find a can of bug spray anywhere in the house. Wal-Mart was 40 miles away. Turns out pepper spray works really well against them. makes for a good show too. One thing to note though, as with many things in life wind direction is important. ------------- Warning! Blind man with a tractor! Head for the hills! |