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Topic: new class
Posted By: 8070
Subject: new class
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 3:10pm
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Well we getting a new class here in so Ill in 2016 it going to be a turbo class .70 and older . Thinking I going with a 19 any one want more info mess me
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 4:55pm
The driver has to be 70 or older or the tractor has to be built prior to 1970?
What weight? Give us more details on the rules. Whatever the rules, I doubt a D19 would be the right choice. A 180 or 190 would be much better.
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 6:02pm
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It going to be 5000 to 7000 lb class . 360 cub limit 3lm turbo rotary pump only 18 4 38 any cut 12 MPR. A 19 a 190 rear end the same that y iI do 19 with the 301 in it . The 17 I got going to get a 433t in it for the boy to pull in the 4 mph class
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 6:12pm
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The RNG got he same as tractor no 5.9 or dt360. 3000 rpm . They or call it o light hot farm class . On debore or storking . Must be right head for the tracter . Only 2 vol heads . This what I know as of now .
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 6:47pm
I found my decoder ring.
Well, If I were going to do a class like that, I would make the engine / pump / turbo rules similar to the IPA Outlaw 6500 lb. group in the same state. Then you might pick up some pullers at your pulls and you could go to some of theirs if you wanted.
D 19 and 190 are similar but different. 190 transmission and differential are heavier.
Rotary pump rule is bad for you unless everybody else has to have one.
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 7:02pm
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This is the rules got be rotary pump can't be a in line . This a class to get the guy that ant got the $ to pull in the big classes and to try and get away from the 4mph class . They are hoping to get some younger guys to start pulling . We run with south Ill puller . The late 190 xt was diff yes but it to heavy to get to 5000 that y I going small axle here and 180 still got the drops . If i want that I just do a 17 again .
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Posted By: TennMatt1
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 7:11pm
We have a guy here with a wd with 6cylinder and turbo. There trying to get that started as well. I'm in Northern Middle Tennessee.
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 7:31pm
Early, small axle 190 is still stronger and wouldn't weigh hardly any more than a D 19. 190 Transmission is stronger. Larger pinion bearings, ring gear is bolted to the differential carrier where a D 19 is riveted. 190 diff carrier is thicker than a D 19. d 17 and 180 are apples and oranges for strength.
You do what you want. I would pick a 190 every day of the week and twice on Sunday and run low side of road gear in a 12 MPH class. They can make 5,000 lbs. Not much left of them, but it's been done before.
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 9:48pm
o.p.s your spot on my 190 xt weighs 5500 w me on little more and I can get to 5000 no way would I put that much power in a d19
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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 10:47am
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A 180 with the 301 diesel equipped with a Roosa rotary with the 450 pump head would be an easy fit , some 4-.020 hole injectors, and she,ll be way up front if the tractors balanced right, those drop over the axle gears can handle a lot of power
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Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 12:26pm
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I've been reading this. And i'm courous if a d19 power director would hold up. the reason no oil pressure and still the ability to shift on the fly.
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 12:44pm
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If the engine runs good enough to run 12 MPH at 3,000 RPM there is no way the D 19 PD clutch will hold. If the engine is only able to go 6 MPH then it might.....maybe.
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 3:46pm
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The PD I ant worry about been run a 301 in my 17 this yr in the open class. 3000 rpm . I run 8 to 10 now with it
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 6:24pm
8070 what size tires on the 17
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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 6:36pm
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18 4 38 right now if any of u got fb go look at Evans pulling team that our page
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 7:51pm
and at what weight are you pulling also I don't figure its hooking up to well looking at the pic it looks like that's a lot of nose weight
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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul
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Posted By: 8070
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 9:30pm
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It does good but we or running 6500 to 8500 out field right now and 5000 to 7500 open .
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