I just put some Shell 87 in..yes will try that.

 

Ya...this is what I get for getting the tractor fixed well before the real need for it in late October/November....

Sat for about two month..but how could a chipmunk get in there?????

 

On the other hand, the WD only gets regular, but I run it at least every two or three weeks and always kill it by shutting the gas off at the sediment bowl.

 

Took off the air intake hose to carb...no issue. Plenty of vacuum. Tapped the carb like Gene Kelly..Tried starting with ether.  Got flames out the carb, smoke out the stack. But no real turning over.  Drained all the gas. Put in Schell Hi-test, no ethanol. Got puffs of smoke, but that's it.  The puffing of smoke tells one its getting gas right? Or could it be not getting enough?  Just wondering if there is a carb problem.

 

WTH??

 

 

 

I'm not too familiar with the workings of a carb.  What part is the "seat"

The little brass thing, above the needle valve, above the float...

No I don't have kids running around here. Opened up the distributor and watched sparks galore.  Pulled  a plug with wire still attached and its sparked well..

 

 

But I think Its the  needle. when I pulled off the fuel bowl under the tank I noticed my wire screen was not there...then I remembered. A year or so ago when I had this new bowl and it would not seal with the screen.  Needing to get the harvest in, it sealed with no screen. Mental note..resolve this issue, need to get a screen back in there...mental note lost somewhere...So I think I got crap in the carb.

 

 the screen was brobably a plastic screen, and between the diameter perimeter of screen may be bigger and the thickness of the plastic not allowing the screen to lay down in glass bowl lip, was what made it leak... the old screens were made of brass and the rims were thin thus allowing the glass bowl to seal against the gasket.  Just some more of that stupid modern day "re-engineering that don't work right because it wasn't done right.

  if your tank has a rust issue and crud in it, roll a fine screen and put in inlet of sediment bowl body. couple inches high with the top crimped over. in line car filter will plug fast if you have lots of fine particles floating. then you have to either reeplace of blow them out backwards...and usually happens out in the field.. and the taste isn't real desirable.

 Maybe this will help in the carb dilemma.

 

 

Got a new screen, bowl,gasket. Couldnt get it to seal. Didnt work fine for me.

The ether was igniting. smoke-fire observed.

Sometimes the bail stretches or the pot metal that the sediment bowl base attaches to gets warped, from heavy handed tightening...

 

Yes, ran great when brought home - better than ever with new plugs, new head, rebuilt car. Unloaded it, parked it in shed and never ran it till now.  Has to be crap in the carb. 

 

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I have a Zenith, so won't comment more.

The day I bought it, I installed new plugs which did not help.

When he told me he had put on a used manifold, I shot some carb cleaner around the intake ports while turning over the engine with the starter....fired right up!

Took the manifold off and used a BIG file to level off all the ports on the manifold and put it back together. Been running great ever since. 

 

Well I guess you win the prize. SLI sent a guy out. It was the distributor cap. Center point worn.  But I know I had *some* spark else there would have been no ether flame/smoke out the stack... Boy I really HATE these aggravating issues...What a time waste this was...

at least it wont be tooo expensive.

yeah 7 yrs...but I was being ez on 'em LOL! ...I got the tractor going, was just being cute...right now I am stalled out trying to convert it to a NF.

Yazzie, the way your luck is running, ya better watch when you go to the bathroom, your Johnson might fall off!   LOL!  Tractor won't start, no ice cream, that ain't right!

Okay, I've read everybody's responses to this possible problem, but it sounds to me like its a spark problem, not a fuel issue. Your smoke is probably raw fuel. You can have spark down at the points, but it may not be reaching the plugs. We all go for the worst thing first, and usually it turns out to be somethin' stupid and ya look like Telly Savalas when you find the problem. Here in NJ, the weather has been nuts. One day 69 degrees, next day 37 degrees. You're in PA and you've had it worst with this goofy weather. I would simply pop the Distributor cap off, take a little Brakekleen and give the points a spritz and run a rag through them. NOT A FILE!  You guys with your files are killin' me. You remove the cadmium plating off the points when you file them. The plating protects the points from corrosion. You make the condition worst when you file em' removing some of the cad plating. The next time you try to use the Tractor you have the same problem and you're in there filing points again to get it started and blaming the points. Yeah, there's a lot of Chinese crap out there fir' sure.  I read last year about someone bad mouthing SMP Blue Streak points. They had to keep filing them. UGH! Anyway, from the weather changes, it wouldn't surprise me if the points are oxidized and the spark is going to the breaker plate and not through the Distributor cap to the plugs. You see all kinds of spark, but its probably grounding to the breaker plate.  If you cleaned the points the way I suggested, and it still doesn't fire off, I would next try a condenser. If that Tractor ran beautiful when you parked it, it's gotta' be somethin' dumb and simple for it not to start. We always think the worst and start rippin' and tearin' into stuff and its almost always winds up to be somethin' stupid......  Check it out Tommy...

Steve@B&B