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Topic: My grandparents would be amazed!
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Subject: My grandparents would be amazed!
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 7:54pm
I was out at the farm tonight watching our neighbor shell corn in his Case IH combine. Its a 8230. It was running a 8 row head and he was topped out and unloading or waiting to unload every 7 to 8 minutes. I could only imagine what the founders of our family farm would think because they picked corn by hand and put it in a horse drawn wagon less than 80 years ago. Ryan



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Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 8:00pm
Yep. I still feel that way when farmers around me get a field tilled in 30 minutes and then im in mine for 2 days. i bet some fields havent even seen a boot in years


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 8:21pm
Im 49 years old and in my lifetime have witnessed so many changes. Almost everyone hauled grain to the local elevator in a pickup truck! Some pickups had side boards for more capacity!! Dont forget the gunny sacks to keep the grain from leaking out at the tailgate! Nowadays its a different world. These new machines may have all the comforts of your living room at home but there is something to be said for those that love the land to get some dust in their nose and enjoy some of the same things their ancestors did. Ryan


Posted By: lowell66dart
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 8:41pm
I am a tobacco farmer with a whopping 2.5 acres and having a blast doing it. I am 4th generation to work this land. It gives me a great excuse to own 5 tractors and looking for another.

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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:25pm
I've seen a lot of changes too...some good, some not. (won't go into that) i'm also seeing a lot of lending institutions selling the new big equipment that the borrowers can't pay for!


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:39pm
Farmers hauling corn to the elevator with a gravity box behind the tractor now that combine will fill more than 2 small gravity boxes in one dump


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:52pm
That brings back a thought... Our C-50 and C-60 grain trucks hold 400 bushels, so 2 dumps from the gleaner fill them. The custom cutters' combines (green) fill one of our trucks in one dump! We're the only ones in SW OK that don't have semis yet! LOL


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:54pm
We cut our end rows of corn by hand and fed to the livestock to open up fields , Who does that anymore ?

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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails

1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 9:55pm
My grandfather used to say the Neighbors ( Big time operators ) could not even turn their equipment around in our fields . Middle 70's when everyone starting going big . My Grandfather was born in 1889 and died in 1978 . Yes Ryan I am sure he would be amazed at how big things have gotten from then , the yields , the value of good farm ground , technology .

My grandfather was as cheap and frugal as they came . He was in WWI and lived through the depression . What I think what would really blow his mind ; People leaving pennies at the gas stations . I do not know that he could deal with that . I am sure he would think we are all crazy

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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails

1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2015 at 11:02pm
Pat...we cut the volunteer corn out and feed to the critters! i'd like to see the day (and it's coming) when the oil runs out. we won't see it in our lifetime. sure...they'll make oil out of crops, but by then the world population will be doubled and farm ground almost non existant as developers can't get it thru their heads that they are taking the best farm ground out of production to pour concrete on! be more vehicles running on ethanol, most all farm ground will have to produce fuel for transportation and heating. there's more....but you get the picture! those big fancy tractors and combines will be parked unless they change over to ethanol/alcohol! LIVE ON AC! bet there will be lots of electric stuff too! and back to farming with horses if there's anything left to plant onto!


Posted By: steigerbro24
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 12:06am
Not to get off topic with the farming but my grandpa opened a hardware store in 1949. Today my dad owns it and has many stories from back when he was a kid and he worked there. He would tell me that all the black and galvanized pipe fittings were in a shed behind the store and in the winter he had to go out and take inventory with a pen and paper. I've also heard stories about back when, there would usually be only one person manning the store which is rare now days. My grandpa's been gone for about 7 years and i can imagine he would be amazed with all the computers and scanners we have for taking inventory. Time marches on not only for farmers, but for businessman too and things modernize and change. Sometimes I wish I could go back in time and visit the eras that my dad has told me stories about; see how things were back then. Sorry for the long post and to get off track from the farming.

Thanks Peter


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5 Steigers, 7 John Deeres, 8 Internationals, 4 Case tractors and combines and 1 Oliver
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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 7:47am
the only thing that does not change is the fact that change will continue.

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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 7:50am
We opened up our fields when we cut silage.


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 8:18am
Thanks for this post.  To me it is so real.  I remember my Grandfather Long operating his farm in Carroll County, Maryland.  I remember walking with him as he plowed his fields, working with him as he mowed his fields with horses - Pop would send me up with a C sickle bar mower to help, fun time -, I remember making hay with him by picking up the hay with pitchforks and unloading with a hay lift in the barn. 
He could not use powered equipment since his reflexes we not fast enough.
I also think of the largest tractor I sold - a 52 hp D-17 - then look at the MONSTERS we have today 525 HP plus.  Binding wheat with my Grandfather and the threshing crews that came by to complete the harvest.  Now we have FORTY FIVE foot combines. 
How we have improved.
In fact last night on some TV channel I was amazed to learn that less that 5% of the US population are employed on farms and feed this country and an awful lot of the world. 
Simply Amazing.
Good Luck!
Bill Long



Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 8:23am
Todays combines bins hold more than most farmers in the 40s harvested in one year.

Dusty


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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 12:52pm
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The way Grandpa and Grandma did it in "48". Picked it and shucked it and tossed it in the wagon. Before we got the 39B the wagon was pulled to the crib with horses. I was 8 at the time and helped unload ear corn into the crib. Later a custom sheller with his truck would show up and shell everything in the crib and grind some for chicken scratch.
I still have the hand corn planters my family used and the husking pins they used when picking field corn. We never owned a corn picker.
The custom sheller would also grind the cobs for chicken litter. They went back in the crib until we needed them


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 12:57pm
I'm fifth generation on our farm and often wonder too what my forefathers would think if they could see us farm today. At the farm show last week was a 1600 bu. grain cart on tracks and the company also makes a 2000 bu. Corn is planted at an acre per minute now. My old Gleaners can't dump into my 600 bu. gravity bin. D-21 has its hands full pulling gravity bins.

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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 7:32pm
Another great memory was picking corn with a New Idea one row picker!! Yes folks, only one single row at a time. My father would put me in the wagon to ride along. It was a flat bottom wagon with sideboards on it. I loved being involved in the operation and it taught me common sense although I recall getting a bloody nose or two!! Nowadays my father would be put in jail for letting a child be put in such danger! WTF ever! My greatest memories!! Ryan


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 8:24pm

Besides the changes in the size and productivity of farm machinery, consider the changes in herbicides.  I can remember when 2-4D was about all there was.  Then Atazine and then Round-up and now....................................

Also think what computers and cell phones have done to the way farming is done and the way we live.


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GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: 19856020
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 9:05pm
wish my children and all kids could understand how it was for previous generations .lots of dangerous stuff went on but as ryan stated that's how we learned common sense ps.my daughter an officer in FFA very few kids want to b in FFA any one with suggestions I,m willing try to promote FFA and history of farming

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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 9:06pm
Oddly enough, though, I was visiting with a man the other day who sells fuel to cenex stations. He said that in the 60s and 70s, farmers fuel consumption was 16+ gallons per acre. Now it is just over 4. Darrel


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 9:31pm
   Now Darrel, 16 gallons an acre is not correct no matter how you slice it or dice it. That number is way out of whack.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by Auntwayne Auntwayne wrote:

    Now Darrel, 16 gallons an acre is not correct no matter how you slice it or dice it. That number is way out of whack.


Around here, they used to plow everything first, most likely with a gas powered tractor and 3 or 4 bottom plow. Then disk a couple times. Then seed. Then spray. Then combine. Then do fall tillage. Plus probably seeded half and summer fallowed the other half, hitting that at least twice with tillage. Add it all up. Darrel


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 10:08pm
Originally posted by Auntwayne Auntwayne wrote:

    Now Darrel, 16 gallons an acre is not correct no matter how you slice it or dice it. That number is way out of whack.

Gas engines. Plow, disc, disc,field cultivator ,spread fertilizer, row cultivator 2 or 3 times, harvest. All with gas motors and small implements. I bet 16 gallon wouldn't be to far off. Bet it would be double digits easy.
       IG

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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2015 at 10:29pm
Also, to look at it in a different perspective, I don't think it's too far fetched to think that a 100 acre farm in the sixties would go through 1600 gallons of fuel in a year. Darrel


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 4:56am
And on the other end of the spectrum, a modern day farm using four gallons per acre seems accurate. Thus, a five thousand acre farm going through 20,000 gallons of fuel seems reasonable. Darrel


Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 2:08pm
My dad planted corn with a home made 3 point hitch 2 row corn planter and used the rear tire tracks as a marker. It worked just fine. He had a WC Allis with a 2 row mounted picker he harvested with till one year he loaned it to a Nephew who ran it out of oil and ruined the engine.
He sold it to a fellow who wanted the mounted picker and bought a New Idea Model 7 pull type picker. One year a early even for this area of Michigan saw about 14 inch's of snow on the ground and 40 acres of corn to pick. Dad had a Big Massey Harris 44 that just could not do the whole job of towing the picker tuning the PTO and haul the wagon so he had me bring the Case VAC to the field hook to the picker than hook the 44 to the Case.
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We picked all the rest of the corn that way that year. By Christmas we had a thaw and all the snow melted off, but the fields were a muddy mess and I got the VAC stuck several times trying to spread manure. Dad said to just use the pile out side the barn till spring.

Yes we always plowed a field used a Massey 44-4 an Massey 44-6 and several Allis WD's And wd 45 oneD14 lasted about a month. dad said it was as useless as tits on a boar pig and got rid of it and bought another WD 45.

We when I was young put the hay up loose with a old New Idea hay loader behind the wagon. I drove the old WC at first then the VAC. We pulled it up in the hay mow with the WC then latter with the VAC with the hay forks we called grappling hooks.

In 1956 Dad got rid of the horse drawn hay mower and Got a Moline semi mounted mower. Boy could I mow some hay with that thing.

Your tractor and equipment was only as good as the dealer. Dad loved his Massey Harris tractors and new Idea equipment but when the old fellow retired and sold the dealer to a cussing man and mom rebelled at going after a part dad switched to Allis stuff and Ghiel equipment.


   Al


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 3:56pm
And they drove Fords and Studebakers too


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by alleyyooper alleyyooper wrote:

My dad planted corn with a home made 3 point hitch 2 row corn planter and used the rear tire tracks as a marker. It worked just fine. He had a WC Allis with a 2 row mounted picker he harvested with till one year he loaned it to a Nephew who ran it out of oil and ruined the engine.
He sold it to a fellow who wanted the mounted picker and bought a New Idea Model 7 pull type picker. One year a early even for this area of Michigan saw about 14 inch's of snow on the ground and 40 acres of corn to pick. Dad had a Big Massey Harris 44 that just could not do the whole job of towing the picker tuning the PTO and haul the wagon so he had me bring the Case VAC to the field hook to the picker than hook the 44 to the Case.
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We picked all the rest of the corn that way that year. By Christmas we had a thaw and all the snow melted off, but the fields were a muddy mess and I got the VAC stuck several times trying to spread manure. Dad said to just use the pile out side the barn till spring.

Yes we always plowed a field used a Massey 44-4 an Massey 44-6 and several Allis WD's And wd 45 oneD14 lasted about a month. dad said it was as useless as tits on a boar pig and got rid of it and bought another WD 45.

We when I was young put the hay up loose with a old New Idea hay loader behind the wagon. I drove the old WC at first then the VAC. We pulled it up in the hay mow with the WC then latter with the VAC with the hay forks we called grappling hooks.

In 1956 Dad got rid of the horse drawn hay mower and Got a Moline semi mounted mower. Boy could I mow some hay with that thing.

Your tractor and equipment was only as good as the dealer. Dad loved his Massey Harris tractors and new Idea equipment but when the old fellow retired and sold the dealer to a cussing man and mom rebelled at going after a part dad switched to Allis stuff and Ghiel equipment.


   Al


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 5:45pm
Great stories and nice picture. Im sure you can dig up more of them to post! Ryan


Posted By: SC Dan K.
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 5:58pm
How did the Massey Harris compared to the Allis Chalmers?


Posted By: VAfarmboy
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 6:08pm







Originally posted by Ryan Renko Ryan Renko wrote:

Im 49 years old and in my lifetime have witnessed so many changes. Almost everyone hauled grain to the local elevator in a pickup truck! Some pickups had side boards for more capacity!! Dont forget the gunny sacks to keep the grain from leaking out at the tailgate! Nowadays its a different world. These new machines may have all the comforts of your living room at home but there is something to be said for those that love the land to get some dust in their nose and enjoy some of the same things their ancestors did. Ryan


I am 43 and it was still mostly pickup trucks in line at the elevator when I was a kid. I used to ride there with dad in his big dump truck and it took forever to get to dump because they had to hoist all of those pickup trucks. A few of them actually had the grain in gunnysacks that they had to dump into the sump because they were still running an old pull type combine with a bagger.   Back in the mid 1970s quite a few farmers around here were still running pull type, AC All crops, and Deere Model 30s. The BTOs (i.e. anyone row cropping 80 acres or more) had self propelled IH 105s and 315s, Gleaner EIIIs and Ks, Massey 205s and 300s, Deere 45s and 55s, and there were even a couple of old Oliver 525s around here too.   

Dad traded for a new Deere 4400 diesel when I was four years old and that thing was the biggest combine around here. It really doesn't seem like that long ago either!







Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 7:37pm
Speaking of the pickup trucks hauling grain, our mother often agreed to be the driver to the elevator. Our 3/4 ton Chevy with sideboards would hold around 90 bushel + or -. She would be waiting sometimes for HOURS just to get the truck full. Then the trip to the elevator to sometimes wait in line for minutes or hours. And nobody had a cell phone! Oh the good ol days!! Ryan


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by Auntwayne Auntwayne wrote:

   Now Darrel, 16 gallons an acre is not correct no matter how you slice it or dice it. That number is way out of whack.

According to the Nebraska tractor tests, an Allis-Chalmers D17 with gas engine, will burn about 4 gallons a hour. Pulling 3-14 plow, would use 4 gallons an acre. About 2 gals to disk X 2, then harrow, plant, cultivate twice, spray, and harvest, and either process the grain on the farm, or haul it to town, 16 gallons might be on the shy side.


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 8:25pm
    I already had this ciphered before I read the last post. Using 1 gallon per job. Plow....disc....disc....harrow... plant....cult....cult....combine. That's 8 gallons, but I did not allow the extra fuel for plowing (my bad). So if Nebraska says add 4, now we are talking about 11 gallons.    Duane


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Auntwayne Auntwayne wrote:

    I already had this ciphered before I read the last post. Using 1 gallon per job. Plow....disc....disc....harrow... plant....cult....cult....combine. That's 8 gallons, but I did not allow the extra fuel for plowing (my bad). So if Nebraska says add 4, now we are talking about 11 gallons.    Duane

But, you still haven't hauled it out of the field, put it in a bin, (or crib), shelled it or taken it to town. If your feeding it to livestock, then there's the fuel to turn it into livestock feed, and care for the animal.



Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 8:41pm
   I will add one gallon,12. 24 foot harrow doesn't use a gallon per acre , now we are splitting hair. Just because someone heard someone say something does not make it so.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 9:10pm
Don't forget rotary hoe once. I would bet they used more then 16. A 190 gas would burn a tank a day just idling sitting on the end.....LOL
   IG

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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 9:17pm
   I was going to throw the rotary hoe in for the odd year that it was needed just in case. Harrow/ rotary hoe, still 1 gallon.    Duane


Posted By: wayneIA
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 10:16pm
A lot of farmers cultivated their crops 3 times when it was wire checked, I don't know how long ago the 16 gal. estimate was, but I remember as a kid riding on the tractor with Dad and he cultivated twice a year like many.  This was after wire checking was a thing of the past.  The typical system he had was either fall moldboard plow, spring disk (once or twice as needed), plant, spray, 2 cultivator passes, and harvest.  If he did it different, it was to disk, chisel plow, spring disk (once or twice as needed), plant spray, two pass cultivate, then harvest.  That was in the 80's, now I one pass field cultivate, plant 1 or 2 pass as needed spray, and harvest on corn ground.  On bean ground I just no-till plant the beans, 1 or 2 pass spray for weeds as needed, 1 pass spray for bugs as needed, and harvest.  Either way I'll burn a lot less fuel than what Dad did, but equipment technology and practices have improved since the 70's when Dad started farming, and the 80's when I started helping.  Dad rode with me once in my N5 Gleaner and couldn't get over how fast I was driving (4.5 to 5 mph), and now with my R50 in similar conditions I can go faster yet if I want to. 


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2015 at 10:54pm
I guess I should have started a new thread for "fuel consumption then and now". The numbers I threw out came from a guy who sold fuel to my brother when he was the manager at a cenex for 17 years. I had just met this guy in my brother's hospital room a few days before he passed away, and I got to talking about fuel and crude oil prices. I asked him what his thoughts were on crude oil prices being low, and he said that one of the reasons was due to people driving less than they used to. That really surprised me, because I thought people were driving more than ever. At least I am. Then I asked him if he knew any statistics on farm fuel usage. He had the answer without even hesitating. Now I am not 100 per cent sure of the years that he said it was 16+ gallons per acre, but I know it was 60s -70s era, but I know that he said today's usage was the 4+ gallons per acre. I have put a lot of thought into what he said, and I think they seem like realistic numbers. Got to remember, they are probably national averages, and not necessarily what happens in any one person's back yard. One small example that I see that kind of supports the numbers, is that I can picture my father in law plowing in the past with a gas guzzler, and having to make roughly 3 passes on a half mile strip to have an acre done. Now, some of my big farmer neighbors will cover 4 acres in one half mile pass.
   Didn't mean to cause controversy on an otherwise very nice thread. I just thought it was a pretty accurate assessment, and thought it was very interesting. Darrel


Posted By: VAfarmboy
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 12:13am
Originally posted by Ryan Renko Ryan Renko wrote:


Speaking of the pickup trucks hauling grain, our mother often agreed to be the driver to the elevator. Our 3/4 ton Chevy with sideboards would hold around 90 bushel + or -. She would be waiting sometimes for HOURS just to get the truck full. Then the trip to the elevator to sometimes wait in line for minutes or hours. And nobody had a cell phone! Oh the good ol days!! Ryan



When I was a kid we didn't even have our own landline phone. We shared our phone line with the neighbors who lived on a farm a couple miles up the road until circa 1980. I told a friend who is about ten years younger than I am about this and he looked at me like I was describing life on another planet. He had never even heard of a multi-party phone line. 






Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 6:52am
Ah yes, party lines! I'm "only" 49, and we had a party line until, I don't know, maybe I was 8 or 9? You only answered the phone on a certain ring pattern, or it wasn't your call. My Dad was in the air force 1956-60. He served with a guy from Warsaw, South Carolina. 2 quick stories about this guy: His grandpa took him to the train station with a horse and buggy to go to his basic training. Grandpa asks, "How long you gonna be?" "4 years," says Smitty. "I'll wait."

Smitty came over to Mom and Dad's place to use their phone to call home. He picks up the phone and says, "Operator, get me Warsaw South Carolina." Long pause......"Hello, Ma?!" Hahaha!!!


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2015 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by VAfarmboy VAfarmboy wrote:

Originally posted by Ryan Renko Ryan Renko wrote:


Speaking of the pickup trucks hauling grain, our mother often agreed to be the driver to the elevator. Our 3/4 ton Chevy with sideboards would hold around 90 bushel + or -. She would be waiting sometimes for HOURS just to get the truck full. Then the trip to the elevator to sometimes wait in line for minutes or hours. And nobody had a cell phone! Oh the good ol days!! Ryan



When I was a kid we didn't even have our own landline phone. We shared our phone line with the neighbors who lived on a farm a couple miles up the road until circa 1980. I told a friend who is about ten years younger than I am about this and he looked at me like I was describing life on another planet. He had never even heard of a multi-party phone line. 


We had a party line also at the farm back in the day. 



Posted By: 220allis
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2015 at 12:02am
I know my dad would say I am peeing in the wind my farm insurance is several times more than the fuel to seed spar and harvest I'm looking at 50 ft chisel plows now my cummins in my bud will pull any load at .75 gal an acer no more seeding 500 dollar a bag conola to break even some of my land will be fallow unless basis improves and we can project a profit and more importantly lock in a profit my time will be spent either with my family working on our collection of tractors or running my construction equipment creating wealth for my family hard questions to ask yourself who benefiting from your work I agree with shameless the true wealth is in our farmland but being 3 miles from the bakken discovery well running out of oil is joke the govt will not allow small company's to drill the many zones that have oil all across this country the bonding spacing and every other law is set up for the majors will hundreds of lawyers


Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2015 at 8:11am
For our corn crop dad and I when I was old enough(8) would plow the field. then one pass with a disk, Pick the stones, 2 corner passes with spring tooth harrows. Pant the corn when up ankle high the first pass with the cultivator, (I hated that slow work because I could not let my mind wander) At knee high a second pass or sooner if we had a hard driving rain that dad said packed the soil, At thigh high one last pass with the cultivator then the picking.

Oats and wheat were pretty much the same except no cultivating. I liked the Massey 44 better than the Case VAC because it steered easier and had more power.

Massey 44 power.

Engine: 45 hp [33.6 kW]

Drawbar (claimed): 31 hp [23.1 kW]

PTO (claimed): 44 hp [32.8 kW]

Drawbar (tested): 43.6 hp [32.5 kW]

Belt (tested): 48.95 hp [36.5 kW


Allis WD 45

Drawbar (claimed): 23 hp [17.2 kW]

30 hp [22.4 kW]

Belt (claimed): 29 hp [21.6 kW]

39 hp [29.1 kW]

Plows: 4

Drawbar (tested): 38.53 hp [28.7 kW]

Belt (tested): 44.13 hp [32.9 kW]

We drove Studs. My aunt had came to visit that day and she drove the Ford. Her son is sitting on the left fender of the VAC.


Al


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2015 at 8:20am
Originally posted by Ken in Texas Ken in Texas wrote:

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The way Grandpa and Grandma did it in "48". Picked it and shucked it and tossed it in the wagon. Before we got the 39B the wagon was pulled to the crib with horses. I was 8 at the time and helped unload ear corn into the crib. Later a custom sheller with his truck would show up and shell everything in the crib and grind some for chicken scratch.
I still have the hand corn planters my family used and the husking pins they used when picking field corn. We never owned a corn picker.
The custom sheller would also grind the cobs for chicken litter. They went back in the crib until we needed them
 
We would open the field that way..But heres the rub..we would have to work our way thru the the picker filled wagon of corn and husk what the picker missed...about 10 ton per year...still cant understand what the point of that was...BTW is that insul-brick siding?  Had that on gramps house...that is some ugly siding!


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 8:54am
220allis, for the love of god dude, punctuate once in a while. Even on a phone, it isn't that hard! Wow.


Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2015 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by Ryan Renko Ryan Renko wrote:

I was out at the farm tonight watching our neighbor shell corn in his Case IH combine. Its a 8230. It was running a 8 row head and he was topped out and unloading or waiting to unload every 7 to 8 minutes. I could only imagine what the founders of our family farm would think because they picked corn by hand and put it in a horse drawn wagon less than 80 years ago. Ryan


While impressive compared to "the good ol days" I figured I would mention that a friend with a R70 Gleaner can fill his 310 bushel bin in 9 minutes without pushing it to the max, due to him still running an open gear black cornheader. Imagine what it would do if he hogged it with a Hugger! :O

It would be interesting to see when the competitors finally matched the productivity of the N7/R7/R70....


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Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2015 at 4:56am
I don't know about the new Gleaners but when they come to harvest the corn next door there is normally a fleet of 6 JD machines. After they leave MY dad would have been real pissed with what is left on the ground that went straight thru those JD machines. The deer work the stubble for months.

   Al


Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2015 at 5:18am

Alley, I don't know how much of that is the green machine and how much is operator not setting the combine properly- plus running like a striped A$$ ape.  You get a fleet of 6 combines and hired help, IMO that's what happens.  All that help is thinking about is the next field and quitting time.

Both of my renters run newer JD machines last year ( 680 and 97xx)  and run the machines themselves-not hired help and I haven't seen any volunteer corn problems.
 
BTW, party line at folks also till the phone company did away with the party lines- mid 80's I'd guess.


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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2015 at 9:29pm
Back in the '30's and '40's men would leave here and go to In. and Il. to hand gather corn and cut broom corn. My Father in law said one year he worked for a man in southern In. that a was big time operator for the times. He owned a lot of land and kept several teams of large horses. He said that man had a Cadillac car I think and he had a hitch on it. He would hitch the wagons to that car and pull them to town or wherever.JP 

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Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 4:06am
All those JD machines are leased machines. About 4 years ago they were Case IH machines For a couple years.
I never figured they were going all that fast compared to any other places I have seen them combining.

   Al



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