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How do I get dual Hyd on my D17,(outlet- return)

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Topic: How do I get dual Hyd on my D17,(outlet- return)
Posted By: boscoe
Subject: How do I get dual Hyd on my D17,(outlet- return)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 10:32pm
I need help on how to get hyd set up on my D17 that has only one Hyd inlet/outlet. I have a 10 foot drill with a dual acting cylinder that has an outlet and return hose. Is there  a hyd housing/valve that i can use so I can use my drill. Right now  I have the single port where I can only use a single acting cylinder. my D17 is a 59 model if that helps. Thanks



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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 10:35pm
You just need a vent for the cylinder, Take off the hose that you don't need to raise the drill and put the vent in it's place.

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Posted By: boscoe
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 10:40pm
I am not sure what a "vent" is, the cyl is a common one with two hoses one on each end of the cylinder. do I take of one hose and plug the hole?


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 11:04pm
   A vent looks just like a plug but has a passage in it to let the air in and out of the dead side of the cylinder. Most farm stores should have them.

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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 11:06pm
Yes just remove the hose from the end of the cylinder that puts downforce on the drill...or you can make a setup like this
 
The hose is just plugged into the one outlet for storage...when using a cylinder it gets hooked into the transport valve to the right.


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 5:52am
A breather would be easy, but don't let the cylinder quite fully stroke to the end and have the AC 3700 psi pump hammer on it. Most 2 way cylinders are for a 2200 psi system and the good ole AC high pressure pump could blow the hyd cylinder apart.


Posted By: BobHnwO
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 6:57am
Yup,what the DR.said,I blew the end off 2  7/16 bolts on a low pressure cyl. with my WD45.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 7:08am
With the AC high pressure Low volume setup. You can use a regular 2 way cylinder if you vent the other side but I guarantee it will be slow. Your better off all the way around to find a proper high pressure cylinder. Or better yet, trade up to a series 4 or newer tractor with the hydraulic system in place to operate your cylinder.

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Posted By: BobHnwO
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 7:27am
You could do it this way.


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 12:39pm
I Have used a regular tie rod cylinder with my WD45 and have had 0 problems. It reacts just as fast as my cousins cylinder on his farmall M does.

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Posted By: boscoe
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2010 at 9:41pm
I do have one with grond drive lift also so I can use that one but i have always used the hyd lift drill they are both 10 ft pda jd. so if I vent the down pressure side and be careful not to over do it it will work. I wish I had my 190 gas running.


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2010 at 10:51pm
Yes. Correct. Have at it.

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