Pictures of my AC project
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Topic: Pictures of my AC project
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Subject: Pictures of my AC project
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 5:47pm
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I snapped some pictures this past weekend. I think they turned out very good for a cell phone camera. I didn't have any time to fool with it because I spent most of the afternoon servicing the Ford 4000.
All comments are welcome as is advice. Most of you would probably consider this an easy project. I hope to be able to pickup some parts next week at GOTO. A carb rebuild kit will pretty much be a must and whatever else I think will be easy to haul back home.
My plans are to get it running good again. Not sure if I want to go to great lengths to bring it to "new" condition. Would love to hear it run again; my grandfather and I spent many hours working and just fooling around with it.
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Posted By: Gary in Texas
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:08pm
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You may want a set of spark plugs, and a set of points and condenser for the mag, and a valve cover gasket, so you can adjust the valves, and check the soft plugs for rust while you have the valve cover off.
I have no idea how old the plugsand points may be, these are just some things to ponder...
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Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:36pm
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Can anyone tell me based on the pictures if this is a WD45 engine? This tractor was purchased as being a 45 about 30 years ago. However, the shifter is straight and it does not have a SC hitch. Of course over the years many parts can be swapped including engines. I'd just like to know in case I end up needing a rebuild kit. I have the serial numbers arond here somewhere.
Thanks.
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:46pm
| Since it has the side cover bolted to the block and a magneto, it is almost certainly an early WD engine. The Zenith carburetor is another indication that it is an early WD engine. |
Posted By: gary ny
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:46pm
| It hard to tell from the picture but if it doesn t have a large plate on the mag side then it will be a 45 block.It should also have a 45 in the serial number located on the carb side of the block.It looks like a nice straight tractor to work on ,The tin looks great from what I can see.Just have fun bringing it back to life and don t be afraid to ask any questions |
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:49pm
| Yes, it looks like a WD45 block. |
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 6:51pm
Anyone have a picture I can see for comparison?
Thanks guys
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gary ny wrote:Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 7:19pm
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It is definitely a 201 WD block. The second picture clearly shows the bolt heads that hold the push rod cover on. OPGA, look at the right side of the block. From the oil filter to the oil fill cap there is a flat metal plate bolted to the side of the block. The oil filter housing bolts to that plate. A 226 WD45 block will not have that plate. It will be solid cast on the whole right side. Soak the cylinders with some PB blaster or Kroil while you are collecting parts. Put in points and condenser, plugs and maybe some new solid core plug wires along with your carb work and it will come to life. Maybe check compression before adding the PB blaster. That might give you some idea of the shape of the internals. Check again after soaking for a while. Keep us informed of your progress. Charlie ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Gil (cent MO)
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 7:27pm
| The engine block has a plate bolted to the right side, that makes it a WD block. The engine head is also a WD head. The 45 heads were taller and the spark plugs were further inset. The engine may have 45 internals but that is not likely. The engine appears to be an earlier WD engine. That doesn't mean the engine is a bad engine, it just means it's a WD engine and is of slightly less horse power than a 45 engine. Magnetos were factory installed on early WD engines. The tractor serial (from the rear of the differential housing) would give a better idea of what this machine was originally. |
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 7:51pm
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Here is the serial #'s Engine: WD246734GA
Tractor: WD43581
The handwritting on the record is that of my late grandfather, so I'm 99% sure they are correct. I'll verify next week while I'm off from work on vacation.
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Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 7:51pm
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congrats, that looks like a fine, original WD. Hopefully the back rims are good, not rusted bad by fluid. Hold on to it if it originally was purchased by your family. You can't buy that.... priceless as they say ------------- 1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless |
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 7:58pm
They are good and the area around the valve steams is nice.
 Also has factory weights.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:01pm
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Those numbers show to be 1950 tractor and 1950 engine. About 8,000 into 1950 production that totaled about 36,000.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:07pm
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Is that an Allis spade ?
------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:10pm
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Rfdeere, That's a tiling spade. LOL
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:15pm
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Posted By: kev/ont
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:25pm
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That is one nice original tractor! I know it is hard to tell from the pictures but the tin work and rear fenders look to be incredibly straight for a 60 year old tractor and the back tires must not be loaded for the rims to be in that kind of shape. I'm sure you will have alot of fun with that old girl. I have one that I just restored that I bought from my uncle's estate (he bought it brand new) and I know that it can never be replaced. I will hang on to it as long as I am looking at the grass from this side. Have fun with it! |
Posted By: omahagreg
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 8:41pm
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That one is straighter than ours, which was my Granddad's. We will need all new sheet metal and rear spinouts, to make ours even look like a nice original. ------------- Greg Kroeker 1950 WD with wide front and Freeman trip loader |
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 9:37am
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Would that head not work with a 4.5" stroke?
Should I leave it as near original as possible or consider any performance upgrades on the engine?
Thanks for the compliments. I guess it is in better than average condition for 60 years old.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 10:43am
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The head will work for a 4.5 stroke. You can buy 4.125 sleeves and pistons to add a little zip or you could put 45 internals in it for even more. For a family show and play tractor I wouldn't change it. Get it running and do some checking,compression etc. before you start rebuilding. You might be surprised how good an old engine will run and for how long.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 11:00am
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Very nice original. Not a lot of them has as good a tinwork. Guess they don't need tire chains in GA. LOL Enjoy. As far as restoring it, you might give it a good wax job and be surprised how it cleans up! ------------- Thanks Most Bad Government has grown out of Too Much Government- Thomas Jefferson |