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Topic: mag power steering drive
Posted By: LouSWPA
Subject: mag power steering drive
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 4:56pm
Is there a power steering pump/mag or distributor drive  or a generator/power steering pump that will fit on a WD/WD-45? I seem th remember someone saying that there was one on a Farmall that would work. I have a P/S unit for a WD, but no pump. In any case i think a mag or generator drive pump would be a cleaner installation



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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 4:59pm
 I have a D17  PS pump that is intregal with the dist. drive.  Is that what you mean?


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by Gary in da UP Gary in da UP wrote:

 I have a D17  PS pump that is intregal with the dist. drive.  Is that what you mean?
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. I actually didn't think of a D-17, that should fit a WD. I was just wondering if there were other sources, too, so that when I go looking I know what to look for.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 6:15pm
Lou, My SIL has his M sitting out back. It has a live pump between the front housing and the distributor. I have threatened to rob it and put it on the 35 WC when I get her going.

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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 8:42am
From a post on the old forum.

Unofficial Allis Forum

Topic: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32218 - Randy v 6/4/2004 2:48:24 AM
I know that all you guys are diehard orange but I love all old tractors and the older the better. one thing that I have found out is that some parts will interchange from other brands. Did you know that you can replace the mag on a wc or wd with a distributer from a H or M farmall. I have 2 WD's that get about 750 hours a year on them for 3 years with IH dist. if you want live hydralics, you can put hydralic pump from a 300 or 400 series farmall on but you will also have to use a super m or h upright dist to clear the oil filter. I have a styled wc with a dual loader a wd wide front, the generator and power steering of a 444 Massy Harris, a 350 IH hyd. pump and super m dist., and foot brakes from a wd . Also, i just seen a post that spoke of round spoke rear wheels. these wheels were made by F&H and are the same wheels that were put on f-20 farmalls and GP john deeres. in fact, i have an f-20 i bought with round spokes and an unstyled WC i bought with f-20 rear steel. Hope you can use some of this info to keep your ac's working!
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232219 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32227&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32227 - Red 6/4/2004 6:54:58 AM
Good tips
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232228 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32231&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32231 - LawlerMinn 6/4/2004 7:46:32 AM
I use the term "refurbish" for my tractors. Original AC parts, new or used, are costly. Did't kbow about the hydraulic pump and distributor swaps; good to know as there are a lot of red parts tractors around. Adding live power and replacing the magneto just might be a winter project for me. Thanks Randy.
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232232 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32235&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32235 - Dusty MI 6/4/2004 8:01:27 AM
I knew about the distributor swap, it had been mentioned on here once or twice, because of that I had wondered about the hydraulics. How about the hydraulic from the IHC C, the pump mounts the same way?

Dusty
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232236 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32243&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32243 - John (MO) 6/4/2004 9:01:48 AM
Great tips!!! Now, how about posting some pictures of the swaps you have mentioned? When the picture archives works, that is.
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232244 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32301&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32301 - Randy v 6/4/2004 4:24:28 PM
dusty,
i believe that a c pump will work. the only thing that matters is that it is the correct rotation and as far as i know, the w9 through 650 gas were the only ones that turn backwards from all the rest.
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232302 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32305&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32305 - Randy v 6/4/2004 4:39:57 PM
dusty,
just got to thinking about your question. if you have a dist. pump on a ihc c, it would have to be aftermarket. only the number series had dist. pumps. it could probably be a behlen pump though and if so, it will fit but check it out first because they are almost impossible to get seals for according to my neighbor.
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232306 file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_view.asp?mid=32331&mtop=232218&mtext1=&mtext2=&morder= - RE: tips on using parts from other colors. file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Documents/Tractor/MiscTractor/forum_email.asp?eid=32331 - John (AZ) 6/4/2004 7:25:51 PM
A few more parts that will interchange are the clutch plate and pressure plate and throwout bearing between a WC allis and a H farmall, I used the entire clutch from a parts H I bought to replace the clutch in my WC although the clutch springs seem a bit stiffer.
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 9:16am
Here is M+W Live power pump on CA? D-10/12? Guess there was a Mag. drive version also, bet these are hard to find



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