plow "trash clearance" ?
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Topic: plow "trash clearance" ?
Posted By: Sandknob
Subject: plow "trash clearance" ?
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 4:22pm
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Which AC plow would have the best "trash clearance" for corn stalks. I am planning on putting in corn on 4 acres this year and then after harvest putting in wheat afterwards. I would like to plow the stubble down as I don't have a no till drill. I tried doing this a few years ago and plowed with a #53 and fought the plow the whole time (plugging). I had good results with the wheat, but plowing was enough to pull hair out over. I have a 190 with snap coupler and have been looking for a 4-5 bottom for it. Any better series than the 50 series?
Thanks
Adam
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 4:29pm
either disc the stalks first, or stalk-chop should help alot
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Posted By: rob(ont)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 4:35pm
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One very important thing to consider is to plow in the same direction the stalks are leaning, or pick the corn in the direction you want to plow. This will help lots for trash flow. Plowing against the stalks will learn you new words real quick. Make sure the coulters are set correctly. Sorry I cannot help with which model is best for clearance. Wider cut will be better. Rob.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 4:47pm
2000 semi mounted worked decently. Any three point or SC will be too short front to rear for good trash clearance. You need the long length of the semimounted plow with the trailing lift wheel and gauge wheel to spread out the bottoms and coulters.
That's not to say the 2000 can't be plugged, just its harder, and when it IS plugged its a royal pain to unplug it.
The alternative is to chop the corn stalks first which is another operation.
The best plows I've ever seen for clearance were the IH 720 and later.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Dave (Mid-MI)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 5:45pm
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I disk mine first with an A-C 2315 disk, which isn't heavy enough to chop the stalks very well, it mostly knocks them down. I then plow with D-15 and #82 slat-bottom plow. It has more clearance than your 53, but I would think that if you get the stalks knocked down, and your coulters are in good shape and adjusted properly, you should get through with minimal plugging.
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 6:04pm
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Funny you should ask. I just was out tonite taking last years sweet corn patch and disking it. Never got around to plowing it last fall and I picked the corn by hand so alot of stalks were standing. Even with my little 8' disk, it chopped it up really good. I would say go over it with a disk first and then you can still use the plow you have.
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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 6:11pm
Adam - 70 & 80 series will be much better than you 50 series. My rotation is corn then beans then winter wheat/double crop beans so I never need to rush to take care of the stalk stubble for winter wheat. I like to disc the stalks once in the fall then once or twice again in the spring unless we use the field for plow day. My experience with 74 series fully mounted plows is the SC version has a little better trash in stalks than the 3 point. I had to take off the front coulter on my 3 point version, even in non-corn stalk fields. If it plugs real bad, just take them all off.
Brush hogging first before any discing is even better and for 4 acres it wouldn't be much work. If you have lots of acres you'd need a big batwing to be efficient. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 6:25pm
In my younger days when farmers still plowed,we would shred stalks in the fall leaving 2 rows every so often to catch the snow. In the spring we would disc everything before plowing. With todays hybrid cornstalks they won't decompose near as fast and can be a problem. Plowing right after harvest could cause extra problems. Shredding with a flail chopper might give the best results. I have had real problems in stalks that are dry and fluff up like a feather mattress. To eliminate the stalk problem have somebody come in with a big round baler and remove most of the for you.
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Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 8:10pm
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I will readily agree that the 70 series and later plows will have the best trash clearance of the SC plows, and that shredding or disking are a great help when plowing stalks. However, I firmly believe that good (not worn), sharp, properly adjusted coulters on a good (not worn) plow that is properly set are a real life saver in trashy situations. The coulter must be large enough that it can be set deep enough to cut the trash, but still shallow enough that the trash doesn't bunch up in front of the coulter. In stalks, I will often set my coulters to run just a little (~1/4") to the right of the leading edge of the shin. In the fore/aft direction, I set them back until they run about 1/2" ahead of the shin. This serves as a fence that keeps stalks from bridging between the bottoms, and makes sure they are cut just before they are turned under. Notched coulters are a big help on plows that use smaller diameter coulters, but they still need to be in good shape. Concave coulters will also help with low clearance plows, but they have to be in good shape and set properly too. Going to the field with a worn out plow is like going on a moose hunt with a dull skinning knife. Enough soapboxing from me...
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Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2010 at 9:36pm
i have a 70 series plow which has lots of clearance. it has the angled beams which also help. the advantage with the 70 series (and later?) is the adjustable frame width. the owners manual says you can use 14" bottoms with 16" frame spacing for high trash situations, would think that helps a lot. coulters help a lot, keep 'em sharp and don't run 'em too deep
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