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Topic: WTB
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Subject: WTB
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 10:47pm
| a 3=pt tree planter |
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Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 11:28pm
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I got one! Just need 3 guys to run my 3 pointed shovels........
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2015 at 11:59pm
| There was one on CL Lima/Findlay Ohio for $450 for quite a while. |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 6:19am
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What are ya gonna do Shameless? Plant trees to block sight of the neighbors. ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
Posted By: Randy WI
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 7:35am
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You do know that trees draw tree huggers . not a tree hugger Randy |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 7:48am
| Are you looking for a tree transplanter? If it runs off a 3 point hitch, it'll likely be too small in capacity to do much. I can plant trees faster, with a 24" step down tree planting auger, than that little stuff does. May be a different story, if you have your own trees to move, but if you're buying them, I'd go with a hyd driven auger... |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 12:36pm
| I have all kinds of augers to plant with, also have a backhoe I use to plant larger trees...I wanna tree planter to plant bushes with on an acre or more! Les...bring your shovels and dudes or dudettes! I don't wanna plant 800 bushes by hand or auger! |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 12:39pm
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Shameless, you got all the help you need right there in your house! I used an auger on the skid loader and the old lady.....opps, I mean the loving wife, dropped the plants in and covered them up. just tell her she needs the exercise....LOL Don't forget to post how it goes. Ha ha ha ha ha ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 3:52pm
| you want me KILT? I thoughts you were my buddy! PFFFFT! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 3:52pm
| i'll tell her what YOU said! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:03pm
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If these bushes are all in a row ( I'm guessing here), why not just run a single furrow plow to make the row? probably take 2-3 passes to get deep enough ? It's how I planted 400 tomatoes one year real fast. 2 passes dug the trench,toss toms in 45* toward west wind,kick soil around them, done ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:09pm
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We planted 12,500 pine trees with a tree planter. Got it from the WI DNR. Wouldn't take long to plant 800 bushes. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: NDBirdman
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:27pm
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. ------------- 1955 WD45 S#205467, 190XT #6652 DXT |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 4:43pm
Delivering this in the morning....Dale 
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 7:11pm
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What kind if bushes you planting? ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 7:25pm
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I think he's thinking aronia, Luke.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 7:53pm
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If you want to plant 8000 aronia bushes. You are flat crazy!!! I have 5000 of them and it's all a guy can do to upkeep them I have had them since 2009. I'm 35 and they wear me out!!!!! We are certified organic also. Just my two sense worth. If you have any questions about them I can give you some info. ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 8:17pm
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I got 800, Luke. What do you do that is so tiring?
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 8:44pm
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Weeding, mulching and pruning! ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 8:52pm
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I probably don't know as much about them as you. I used to pull weeds by hand, but it was an everyday job after work. I quit doing it. Ain't got the time. I don't mulch or prune either. I figure if they can't survive on their own, then they can just die. Where do you deliver your harvest? ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 8:55pm
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If you don't weed them it's a bitch come pickin time. We use Mexicans to pick them now. ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2015 at 9:46pm
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Ya hear that Shameless? You better be nice to them new neighbors. You're gonna need them to pick your berries!
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 1:10am
| yep...that's what I wanna plant...and if it works o-k...i'll do another 75-56 acres! OrangeBorn...that's the kind I was looking for! where is it going? is it for sale? I am to old to weed them by hand, will mow between the rows, also will buy/rent a harvester! and where do ya'll sell your berries? I have a list of several that want them. but won't name a price yet! what have ya been gittin for them? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 1:10am
| how much do Hispanics charge for picking? |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 5:24am
| Ok, Now that I understand the question, google tobacco planter, readily adaptable to what you have in mind... |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 5:52am
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You'll have to ask Luke what the mexicans charge fer pickin, but it's probably around 40 cents per pound. We haven't been paid for the 2014 crop yet, but the 2013 crop brought $2.07 per lb. Before you hire the southerners to pick, please ask the local folks first. You'll be surprised at what you'll find for help pickin. The local boy scout troops and church youth groups are always lookin for ways to raise money. I had the high school girls soccer team pick mine. They said it beat the hell out of standing on the street corner doing $5 car washes. Luke and I both deliver the berries to sawmill hollow in Missouri valley, Iowa. Shameless, what's growing there now where you're gonna plant those bushes? ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:16am
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I had to google aronia bush to see what you're talking about. Yeesh I 20' of them here( we call them Anna berries, as the TWO saplings came from great neighbour Anna) and they multiply faster than rabbits. Some kind of FAST growing blackberry. Now I'm thinking a 'sub soiler' on an Orange would be the fastest way to get a trench dug to get them planted, then a 'seat/platform thing( whatever you call it), and have someone put the shoots in as YOU drive the tractor. I'm not a real farmer but someone here must know the names of the 'thing' I'm describing. Saw a 'weed steamer ' on TV once for grapes, wonder if that would work for you? Seems the steam killed of weeds, left the grapes alone. food for though Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:58am
| I have a 1 acre patch that I've not planted anything in for the past 2 years...reason? it has been (as long as I remember) a terrible patch of foxtail. soooo...for the past 2 years I have done nuthin but disk it all season long! it's a patch all by itself, away from other fields. also been cutting the trees back that's growing around the field, so if I give up the farming thing I can still have this. but if ya can't gits paid for them.... |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 7:00am
| also wonder what the dif is for organic or not in price? USDA says I don't hafta have a cert with just 1 acre? anyone know anything about that? Les...you organic too? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 10:01pm
| OB...ya didn't answer my ? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 10:03pm
| Luke...tells me about this! |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 10:55pm
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Shameless, you're gonna want to get some grass growing first. And not brome grass either. You need rye/bluegrass or something. The grass is hard to keep trimmed around the plants, so you're not gonna want something that gets to tall and smothers the aronia. Try to get some grass growing for a fall aronia planting. I don't know what nebraska does, but in Iowa, if you're gonna grow organic, you need a certification no matter if you're growing 2 plants or 200,000. But you don't need to worry about that yet. You won't need it till you're ready to sell. When you do get your certification, you'll need to be able to show you're chemical free for the last 3 years. From what I've heard, the non-organic folks are only getting 50 cents per pound. I can't see how they are making any money at that rate. They'd have to have a LOT of them. This crop is a lot like any other. The more you work with them, the better they'll be. Mine and Lukes bushes are the same age. Yet his are twice as tall as mine. I'm guessing the difference is the soil. Luke may be doing extensive soil testing and is using organic methods to make the soil more fertile. I haven't done much of anything with mine. luke's bushes are 5-6 feet tall, but mine are only 2-4. I know guys that have planted in raw fields that have previously had row crop corn and beans and look the same 3 years later as the day they planted them. Chemicals may make corn and beans grow, but they RUIN the soil. Why else would the same chemicals be needed year after year? Perhaps Luke can chime in and add a few points or show where I'm mistaken on some. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 3:19am
| thanks les...this helps me! |
Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 3:54am
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I know this isn't the planter you were looking for but it might make weeding those organic berries a little easier. Seen one of these clean grass out of an alfalfa patch and out of sorghum. You would be surprised how liquid LP on the ground cleans things up. The LP burners can be set directionally for rows and such. Blueberry Flamer
https://www.flameengineering.com/agricultural-flamers-blueberry.php |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 4:04am
| thanks 99! I do have a small propane weed burner...and they do work! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 5:29am
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Shameless, finally remembered the name I was thinking of, Holland transplanter. http://www.transplanter.com/cnvplant.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.transplanter.com/cnvplant.htm
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 6:36am
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Shameless if you have any questions you can call me. 641-660-four one five zero ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 11:34am
| thanks dave...and luke...will call ya...thanks! |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 11:50am
I just hauled it...A guy in AZ bought it. Was listed on craigslist St Cloud Mn but is gone now. Picked it up in northern MN and delivered it to his farm south of La Crosse WI...just put tree planter into adhunter.com and will have some listings for an idea...Dale
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SHAMELESS wrote:Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 12:02pm
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http://aroniaberryservicesofneiowa.com/how-to-plant-aronia-berries.html" rel="nofollow - http://aroniaberryservicesofneiowa.com/how-to-plant-aronia-berries.html
------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 12:18am
| thanks more! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 12:43am
| Les....why haven't they paid you yet? is this normal for Sawmill? |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 7:18am
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I'm not familiar with how they go to market and who buys them Shameless. All I really know is that all the growers that send the berries to them get processed there. They have a processing line that blows off the leaves, pulls the stems, disinfects them, and packages them in 30 lbs boxes. They then go to Omaha into a cold storage facility. They send you a check when he sells them. All of the growers are supposed to get paid the same. Maybe it takes that long to sell all of them? Maybe it takes a while to get the price he's looking for? I really don't know. The check for the 2013 crop arrived in about June 2014. the 2013 crop brought $2.47, but he kept 40 cents for processing, storage and sales commission, making my payout $2.07. If you have 800 mature bushes putting out 30 lbs per bush, that's a $49,680 before tax payout @ $2.07. But it takes a while to get them there. Compare that to $240 you'd make from hay from the same space. My 800 bushes has so far only produced 589 lbs at 3 years old, and the 4th year got hit with a late frost but still managed a 750 lb harvest. My buddy has 1600 bushes the same age and had frost one year and hail the next, and he hasn't had a single crop yet. Luke is a little shy at giving out any info, but if he has 5000 bushes 6 foot tall, and he's taking care of them the way I think he is, he might be doing 20 lbs per bush maybe. Even if he's only getting 15 lbs per bush and he's paying 40 cents per pound for picking, he's still making $125,250 a year. Well worth it if you ask me, no matter how hard he works at it. With only 800 bushes, I never planned for it to be a full time job. I don't spend near the time on them Luke does. I was just looking at it to hopefully be a little retirement income. Besides, I wasn't using the space for anything else. It was just space I had to mow anyway. If they flower, and a late frost hits them and they produce nothing, I really don't care. I'm not dependent on the income. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 7:57am
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hmm.. They send you a check when he sells them. Well THAT is NOT nice !!!! You're out a LOT of money and he 'when and if I sell, I'll cut you a check' !!! Try saying that to the bank or credit card company !! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:40am
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It all looks good on paper. If I made what les is saying I would quit my full time job!!!! Crop insurance is now finally becoming available. Frost will screw you. And if you have a lot of deer in ur area I recommend not planting them unless you put in an 8' tall fence otherwise ur pissing in the wind like I have been doing. Les is delving out info I would not have posted on the forum. It's taken 6 years to learn what I know now. Lots of foot work and paperwork and BS. He also doesn't mention trucking or some of the other hidden costs. Just my two sense worth. ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 9:34am
| well...any info I can gather is a plus! thanks guys! I did look into other sources of buyers, seems that may be a plus over sawmill...maybe not....but sawmill does sell the plants cheaper than anyone else too! seen them from $1.57 to 29.95 each! apparently sawmill must be selling to superberries in Omaha,ne. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 3:14pm
Yep. To be "organic", even if your growing space is 14' x 14', you must have a certificate. "Certified Naturally Grown" is another program that is basically the same, but costs a whole lot less. https://www.naturallygrown.org/" rel="nofollow - https://www.naturallygrown.org/ |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 6:05pm
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Last I heard WE NEED MORE GROWERS! The info I'm getting is the big boys like kraft foods won't buy because there ain't enough of em. It benefits us all if we can get more growers growing them. That's why I'm not afraid to share. It helps us all. I also feel it's a good thing to get more organic food on the table. Chemicals are slowly killing us all, I believe. All the info I'm sharing can probably be found online anyway. If somebody hadn't told me, I wouldn't know. Trucking wouldn't be a problem for you shameless since we both live close. If you buy your plants from sawmill, you're gonna be required to sign a contract to sell only to him. Keep that in mind as well. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 7:48pm
| well...there really would hafta be a clause in there about payment after delivery...that's what they make banks for! kinda like grain elevators payments! we would have expenses too! when searching the web...I do find quite a few growers out there and a few close to us too Les. Luke...you ever have trouble getting payment? |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:38pm
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The guy that runs sawmill hollow is scatter brained if you ask him a question he does everything he can to not talk around it and not answer it. I don't trust him.i think he has good intentions but is full of shxx!! He has never provided the growers the amount of money he is selling them for per pound. And it takes about 8 months or more to get a payment. It really sucks. I think he has had some grower meetings that have gotten pretty heated and some lawyers involved when it came time to discuss payments. Les must have had better experience than I've had with him. I could go on and on if you want to hear more just give me a call. I'm married with three kids and sink a lot of money into these plants. And for him to hold the payment for 8 months is complete bullshxx!! ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 11:50pm
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I've wondered about him myself Luke. All the talk before I got involved was about them bringing $4 a pound. Then when I deliver, the price is 2 bucks? Another thing I've discovered is that they spend all their time traveling the country promoting their retail products, not the sale of the berry itself. I think he's not selling the berries to anybody. I think he's using them all for himself for his retail products and naturally, he's not going to want to pay us growers any more than he has to. I can't prove any of this, it's just my speculation. I never signed a contract with him as I slipped through the cracks, but I haven't researched where else to take them.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2015 at 2:07am
| there are several sites that are advertising that they wanna buy any/all berries that are grown, but don't know yet where they are located. will look them up again and list them on here! also google bellbrookberryfarm.com there's a lot of info on that site. |