Blacksmiths Grinder
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Topic: Blacksmiths Grinder
Posted By: Zyta
Subject: Blacksmiths Grinder
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 5:22pm
Does anyone else have one of these Blacksmiths Grinders that run off a wide belt system. Has anyone rigged one up to work with a regular electric motor? anyone know anything about these?
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 5:31pm
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You could probably drive it with a V belt on the flat pulley. Might want to go to a B for a bit more working surface. You can still concoct flat belts for that matter, though you'd like to run that shaft about 3000 RPM for 8" MODERN wheels. Needs guards to catch the fragments when a wheel comes apart. Or you could probably take the tops off the bearings and take at least one wheel off and slip on a modern V belt pulley in the middle. Still needs guards. I kind of like that sturdy rest though. Looks like it has had a guard and has holes to mount guards. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:05pm
| Yes it has a really sturdy base.. not sure if it ever had guards. I doubt it ever ran at 3000rpm. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:09pm
| I had one similar and ran it with a v belt. It takes quite a motor. I remember how amazed I was at how long the stones would last. They were about 2 1\2 inches wide. |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:18pm
| Yes the electric motor in this old Blacksmith shop is hudge! It ran a pile of pullies, gears etc.. including an old band saw for making wooden pieces for wheels.. Up top in the upstairs of the old shop is a hudge wheel thats spins also to provide power. |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:24pm
| we had one on the old farm that ran from a big old motor and flat pulley. Came from the blacksmith shop on a farm up the road. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:28pm
| I sure would like to see pics of the shop and shaft setup if possible. |
Posted By: GT in Indiana
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:29pm
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Looks really cool... Check the stones very carefully for cracks however. If you attach a motor and run them at 3000 rpm, it's like standing directly in front of a cannon when they come apart. I doubt that unit was intended to go that fast.
Safety First!
Gerald ------------- 1955 WD45 we like to call Ruby |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:16pm
| I will take some photos of what left of the old place and post them. It's just down the road from my village. Years ago it was a Blacksmith shop and a Saw mill. |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:37pm
| That old unit probably has babbit bearings and the holes on top are oil holes. those bearings probably wouldn't last long at 3000 rpm. |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:38pm
| Ours ran off a very massive old motor mounted to a timber that leaned against a wall. The belt drive was short, only three feet or so to the pedestal. But I am guessing it was a 1200 or 1800 rpm setup. |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:42pm
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There are folks that play with that stuff. You might start here and look thru the links. http://www.indianablacksmithing.org/ |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:43pm
| Those wheels should be "ring tested" before running to check for cracks. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:46pm
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Jim, that grinder likely ran off a line shaft. It likely was not intended to run at 3000 rpm.
Be carefull. I saw you lurking around Stratford this afternoon.
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Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:26pm
| Hi Calvin, yes I was in Stratford my oldest daughter had soccer practice plays for the Strikers. |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:29pm
| Yes this grinder did run off a line shaft connected to a massive electric motor..I will try and post some pics |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:42pm
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Allis Chalmers made many of the carriers used to hold a line shaft. Maybe you have some old Allis equipment in that old shop. I have a 1934 South Bend lathe that runs off a line shaft. I power the line shaft with an electric motor and drive the flat pulley with a v belt. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |