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Topic: Let's see tractors w/ Fat Back 24.5 or 30.5 x 32s
Posted By: AC7060IL
Subject: Let's see tractors w/ Fat Back 24.5 or 30.5 x 32s
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2015 at 11:10am
I always thought they looked tough. I don't have any tractors outfitted with 24.5x32s or 30.5x32s, so I've never operated any. How do they stand up on performance & wear? Please load up your pictures if you hand one. Thanks for sharing :)



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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2015 at 9:57pm
30.5's 0n the 210.---23.1 x 34" duals on the D-21--- 20.8 x 38" radial duals on the 220


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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 12:55am
that drawbar looks like it's bent "up"...is it? and how?


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 8:38am
Beyonce' eat your heart out - those be some fine rears....


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 9:40am
They are nice rears, but Beyoncé has nothing to worry about...


Posted By: Dave7060
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 11:35am
Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

I always thought they looked tough. I don't have any tractors outfitted with 24.5x32s or 30.5x32s, so I've never operated any. How do they stand up on performance & wear? Please load up your pictures if you hand one. Thanks for sharing :)

Had 24.5-32's on my 7060. They SUCKED! Only good thing was they looked cool. They ride terrible, made the whole tractor vibrate on the road, terribly expensive, could not run duals on the drill, too wide to fit in the furrow when we still plowed and they just would not put the power to the ground like they should with out loading them or having a bunch of wheel weights.

I changed over to 20.8R38's, made a new tractor out of it. I also run duals now since I could narrow it up because of my 750 Deere drill. Now with the drill when I shift from 5-6 it will pull the front end off the ground an inch or two unless I put the front weights on, 24.5-32's just slipped till they caught up. No more spinning when working ground either with the 20.8R38's.

With two 24.5-32's you have 860 square inches of rubber hitting the ground. With four 20.8R38's you have 1500 square inches, that's a 47% increase I believe.

My 7580 has 8 24.5-32's on it and they are alright. Lots of floatation and will put all the power to the ground easy. Only thing I don't like there is they are bad for getting flat spots if it sits a while and with clamp on duals it makes it too wide to space them out so they don't fill up with mud if we have a wet fall.

I think your better off going with 650/75R32's if you want a big tire. Much flatter than the balloonish style of a regular 24.5-32, they will ride better and put more power down. 20.8R38's are a lot cheaper though.

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My 7060 as it sits now with the 20.8R38's


Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 11:37am
here are 2 with 24.5s
 
 
 
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and here they are on the ride home
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and here is #3
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I know the grille emblem is not correct, its for a series 1 and this is a 68 series 2


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 11:42am
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Posted By: nanuk
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 12:20pm
I've considered fatties on my 7060 but I think it would be better to have worn out 20.8's and widen them as far as I can so they just miss my baler on tight turns.
 
the FRONTS, now, completely different story.  I have the 14x16.1's three rib, and when turning, my center ribs dig a 3-4" furrow.
 
I'd LIKE to get some 20" or so diamond treads for the front.


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Posted By: jorstad brothers
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 10:53pm
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a couple 220s a d21 getting new rubber and a 190 out in the row


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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2015 at 11:03pm
Wish I could play, but 20.8's are the biggest our AC's sport.

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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 6:28pm
Wow, great photos. I learned that a D21 has rear lights on the back of its fenders opposed to the 210 or 220s. Dave7060, your comments about the fat tires rough ride & poorer performance is interesting. Maybe that's why most fat tire D21s were weighted down to the hilt?
DustinMo, why does your third D21's rear tires have such wide spaced lugs with a prominent center rib?
Jorstad, what model is sitting in the shed by the 220, has the Fwa looking axles? I've never seen a 190 with fat tires. Is it a beach master 190?
Eldon(WA), is your D21 a series I or II? Did you swap it tires to another tractor? LOL..
Thanks guys! Keep em coming..


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 7:11pm
190 option was a 23.1 x 30


Posted By: jorstad brothers
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 7:27pm
the tractor next to the 220 is a 220 fwa  and the 190 has 23.1-30 on it.

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Posted By: VF Farms
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 7:32pm
Here's our 1977 7580 with 30.5's all original paint.

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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

Wow, great photos. I learned that a D21 has rear lights on the back of its fenders opposed to the 210 or 220s. Dave7060, your comments about the fat tires rough ride & poorer performance is interesting. Maybe that's why most fat tire D21s were weighted down to the hilt?
DustinMo, why does your third D21's rear tires have such wide spaced lugs with a prominent center rib?
Jorstad, what model is sitting in the shed by the 220, has the Fwa looking axles? I've never seen a 190 with fat tires. Is it a beach master 190?
Eldon(WA), is your D21 a series I or II? Did you swap it tires to another tractor? LOL..
Thanks guys! Keep em coming..


It's a Series I.....haven't figured out how to get these tires off yet LOL! Those 2 sets of inner weights and set of outer weights are intimidating me....

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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 8:07pm
Jorstad, the grill sitting in the 190's cab speaks volumes.
VF Farms, your 7580 looks like a brute! How many hours on it?
Eldon(WA), I vote that you unbolt the outside weights first.
Everyone, would these fat tires hold more or less fluid than 20.8s, 18.4s, etc?


Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

Wow, great photos. I learned that a D21 has rear lights on the back of its fenders opposed to the 210 or 220s. Dave7060, your comments about the fat tires rough ride & poorer performance is interesting. Maybe that's why most fat tire D21s were weighted down to the hilt?
DustinMo, why does your third D21's rear tires have such wide spaced lugs with a prominent center rib?
Jorstad, what model is sitting in the shed by the 220, has the Fwa looking axles? I've never seen a 190 with fat tires. Is it a beach master 190?
Eldon(WA), is your D21 a series I or II? Did you swap it tires to another tractor? LOL..
Thanks guys! Keep em coming..


It's a Series I.....haven't figured out how to get these tires off yet LOL! Those 2 sets of inner weights and set of outer weights are intimidating me....
eldon what do you think of these,   had them off to put new tires on and axle seals in it want to talk heavy,,,
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and pic 3s 21 has rice and cane tires on it, it came from Arkansas


Posted By: jorstad brothers
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:11pm
i have a 210 with weights like that on the inside and outside also 

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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:48pm
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220 with 9-shank Glenco


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 11:38pm
Originally posted by dustinmo dustinmo wrote:

Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

Wow, great photos. I learned that a D21 has rear lights on the back of its fenders opposed to the 210 or 220s. Dave7060, your comments about the fat tires rough ride & poorer performance is interesting. Maybe that's why most fat tire D21s were weighted down to the hilt?
DustinMo, why does your third D21's rear tires have such wide spaced lugs with a prominent center rib?
Jorstad, what model is sitting in the shed by the 220, has the Fwa looking axles? I've never seen a 190 with fat tires. Is it a beach master 190?
Eldon(WA), is your D21 a series I or II? Did you swap it tires to another tractor? LOL..
Thanks guys! Keep em coming..


It's a Series I.....haven't figured out how to get these tires off yet LOL! Those 2 sets of inner weights and set of outer weights are intimidating me....


eldon what do you think of these,   had them off to put new tires on and axle seals in it want to talk heavy,,,
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and pic 3s 21 has rice and cane tires on it, it came from Arkansas


Hey you just gave me hope!

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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 6:31am
Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

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DustinMo, why does your third D21's rear tires have such wide spaced lugs with a prominent center rib?
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I believe they are rice and cane tires.


Posted By: Acelt250
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2015 at 10:54pm
I have a 220 with 34 in rims can any one tell me what I need to switch to get 32's on it


Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2015 at 11:20pm
you will need tires rims and centers


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 6:01am
Your other option which is not original is what I did on my D-21. It came with 18.4 x 34 and I had a good pair of 23.1 x 34 tires from a misadventure in modified tractor pulling 30 years earlier so I widened the rims to 20" and used the tires that I had. 23.1 x 34 tires are very hard to find.  As was said, for 32's you need everything.

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 8:04am
Shameless, I'm working on a 190 XT that has the drawback bent up too, still trying to figure out how that happened!


Posted By: kmorth
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 9:05am
They are only 23.1x34


Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 9:55am
Why everyone is talking fat tires does anybody know where I could find a set of 24.5x32 rims and centers? Im restoring a d21 that they would go on. Thanks.


Posted By: Shawn PA
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 12:09pm
I have a set on 9 bolt rims. But they are probably not what you'd want for a restored tractor.


Posted By: Acelt250
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 8:51pm
My other question is what hubs are you using to bolt on your steel wheels


Posted By: ACman75
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 9:56pm


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 10:41am
Doug G....I was at a tractor pull one night, a dude came in with a 7040, and it's drawbar was also bent up. I asked him how he did that, he said he bought it that way so he didn't know. he pulled with the tractor and that drawbar was still bent up after the pull! whew!


Posted By: fastallis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 7:46am
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1967 24.5x32 with 18.4x38 step down duals. The duals made it a lot better tractor.



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