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DakotaSteve 
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Posted: 11 Jul 2018 at 11:24pm |
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Looking for opinions....I'm a collector of WD45 and older stuff....preferably older is better....it seems like this stuff is coming down in value. . Colectors 70+ are selling and there are opportunities to own some pretty neat rare things....I've heard people say the reason these things are coming down in value is due to the people collecting now are collecting the things they grew up on...the 7000 series and up stuff....is my boy going to have something of value in 30 years? It really doesn't matter all that much to me...I like what I like and enjoy doing it. :)
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LionelinKY
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 12:24am |
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I look at it this way. I collect what I like to have around and look at. I am fairly certain it will all get sold when I leave this earth and I am ok with that and also not concerned about value since it will still be "free" income to my heirs.
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DakotaSteve
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 8:11am |
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Very true. Well I hope there is a new following of all this older stuff. I think its great.
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 8:32am |
Are 6-12's, 10-15's 15-30's, A's, U's RC's, etc still valuable? I would say exceedingly, the older and more rare they get.
Will the WD45 ever become rare, more likely than one might think, just as you described, the young'uns are selling off dad's and grandpa's tractors left and right, many to scrap, that will make the extremely common WDs and 45's much less common in the distant future. Will they ever be as rare as a 6-12, probably not, but they should hold some value in another 100 years when there aren't nearly as many left around. Obviously that won't likely be in your sons lifetime, but remember if you are collecting tractors to make money, you are in it for the wrong reason.
I think the real factor in the price of antique farm equipment, that isn't present in pretty much any other collectible, is the price of corn. The reason antique equipment values shot up in the late 2000s and early 2010s is the price of corn shot up, and farmers for the first time in a long time had some extra money laying around. Now the input costs caught up, and worse yet, now have not gone back down with the sale price, there isn't the extra money laying around for the want to haves, like collecting.
Edited by Orange Blood - 12 Jul 2018 at 8:36am
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DakotaSteve
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 8:35am |
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I should of made that more clear. I am by no means doing what I love for the money factor that is not it at all. Just hoping that there is going to continue to be a following is the main point and not so sure about that.
Great response Orangeblood.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 4:19pm |
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I have asked a few people that have 10+ tractors and implements and the response has been funeral am auction following. But in reality I believe some of the stuff will stay within the family if there is a place to keep it. And alot of young people have not really had the opportunity to use the older stuff. Interests and available funds change as you get older. My son asked that my first two tractors be willed to him. They are. As far as value goes I really don't care much. Hard to put a price on memories!
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 4:41pm |
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I wonder to about the good old stuff we cherish,from the days we were growing up.I like some of the others on here,have a classic car or truck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and see no interest,or very little. Make's me wonder what will happen to this stuff.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 5:29pm |
Restore a tractor with your son and it won't matter what it is worth, he will want to keep it and pass it on to his kids at some point. With the way emissions and computer crap is going these days, they could very easily go up in value just so people don't have to worry about all the extra expensive crap to have a small garden! David from jax
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 5:30pm |
I don't buy enough to get a sense for the market prices. Orange doesn't sell like green. But I grew up on orange and like to have them around. Regards, Chris |
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 6:11pm |
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That is true David. I'm with you all the way!
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 6:11pm |
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As with all things old and collectable, the best examples survive the test of time. The junk fades away.
Keep your collector tractors running and in the best condition possible.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 6:21pm |
The prices fluctuate. Over the years I've seen cheap prices and prices I thought were too high. Prices should be high right now with the economy at it's all time best ever in history!! 
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 7:31pm |
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I only wish my son enjoyed my interest in farming and AC tractors as much as I do. I have loved them ever since I was a little boy growing up on the farm. So pleased that I am able to farm with our fathers tractors and equipment as well what my brother and I have restored and use. He passed 4 months ago and I miss him dearly but hoping our continuing to run the farm is making him smile. My son does help occasionally but only when asked. That’s okay, everyone’s interest is different. Just hoping one day that may change.
We use every tractor we restore because they are such good machines. No computers and very dependable. New tractors do not interest me that much, love AC’s of all era’s but mainly from the 50’s thru the end of production. Our newest AC is a 1981 6060. Don’t consider us collectors, just love AC tractors and using them.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 8:18pm |
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I grew up on a WD45 loved the old tractor but these days I wouldn't give a nickel to run and use one as there are just too many way handier easier to use and more capable tractors around for cheap.I had a pretty decent collection of older AC and Oliver tractors got tired of them just sitting there so I sold most of them and bought 'classics' from the late 60's and 70's to use as well as have some old tractors.So it won't be me buying mid 50's on back tractors the exception is my CA really like operating it.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 9:40pm |
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We are to the generation collecting the 60's and 70's muscle tractors just like in cars, old model T's and A's aren't in high demand and even stuff from the 50's.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 7:35am |
Mine are just tractors I wanted, not really collected per se... If they have a value at the end, then great, if not, then I enjoyed them for the time I had them.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 8:00am |
 DanWi wrote:
We are to the generation collecting the 60's and 70's muscle tractors just like in cars, old model T's and A's aren't in high demand and even stuff from the 50's. |
I agree Dan, Todays baby boomers (age to have expendable income) are into the 50-70's muscle cars and the older generation who liked the Model A's, T's etc are not collecting them now and the values/interest drops. At some point as the next generation comes along, i think we will see the muscle cars decline in value from the highs being paid today as the youth has more interest in other types of cars, etc.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:27am |
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One other thing, what are we going to see as collector tractors in the future, in the next 10 or 20 years? I can see like the Case IH Magnums and other brands from that time but after that they will be lucky if someone can fix the computers on the new ones to bring them to a show besides the fact that there are fewer of these newer tractors made and are going to survive . They will be as rare as a Big Bud 747
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:38am |
what are we going to see as collector tractors in the future,
sadly I don't think many if any. Seems the collections will disappear once their current owner do. I don't see 'youngins' interested in ANYTHING mechanical, at least around here. There's also the economy factor. Today's kids have next to zero 'exccess money', can't afford a house and car let alone a 'toy'. sign of the times I think. I KNOW the day after I'm gone , 3 D-14s and implements WILL be hauled to the scrapyard but not the Kubota, she'll have a surprise on that one....
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 4:58pm |
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On the subject of value
What is a snap couple rear blade worth?
One coming up at auction tomorrow along with
other AC pieces that where not advertised
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 10:41pm |
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Yeah interesting question, I am similar in that my interest is pre WD45 tractors and a I have a few crawlers on my bucket list. My aim is to buy what I like and not worry about future value if they are within my financial means. My collection to date is purely sentimental reasons however the machines next on my bucket list are pure interest. When I die who knows what will happen, if family were interested they would be given the option or donate to a museum so they can be appreciated.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 10:47pm |
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I agree on the newer stuff being computers...electical wires and plastic....it isn't going to keep very well like this old iron.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 11:36pm |
DakotaSteve wrote:
I agree on the newer stuff being computers...electical wires and plastic....it isn't going to keep very well like this old iron. |
Yeah although I think the Steam era guys thought the same about us. I have a lot of involvement with collector cars and some of the now thirty year old plastic bumper cars we swore would never be restored are being restored so you just never know. Personally they don't interest me but maybe to someone who is ten years of age now will want to have one in 30 years time.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 1:11pm |
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Airflow I agree with you. I saw a 76 Cutlass the other day and got excited about it because it looked so good and I thought 30 years ago I wouldn't have give it a second glance but now I do because it reminds me of my childhood.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 4:45pm |
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Being a "young" collector(25 years old) of things wd45 and older I'm all for the older tractors coming down in value. I have over 25 tractors in my collection with many more on the wish list and never really gave any thought to resale value
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:03pm |
EmhoffC wrote:
Being a "young" collector(25 years old) of things wd45 and older I'm all for the older tractors coming down in value. I have over 25 tractors in my collection with many more on the wish list and never really gave any thought to resale value |
Great to hear, and well done on building up a great collection at your age! I had a few years away from the hobby (although kept everything) before resuming again only a couple of years ago and at 37 I still have time to build it to what I would like. Keep up the great work!
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:13pm |
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Things in my area are coming down, IF you get out and look around. If you go buy cregslist and eday there not, but cregslist and ebay are more and more just the same high priced stuff just staying on for months and even years at a time. Iv bought 2 A farmalls for way less than 1000 in the last month, and there a 9n ford i know about for 300 that i may end up with. Im glade to see the 40s and 50s stuff are coming down bc that what iv alwase liked
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 7:56pm |
Wdtractorman wrote:
Things in my area are coming down, IF you get out and look around. If you go buy cregslist and eday there not, but cregslist and ebay are more and more just the same high priced stuff just staying on for months and even years at a time. Iv bought 2 A farmalls for way less than 1000 in the last month, and there a 9n ford i know about for 300 that i may end up with. Im glade to see the 40s and 50s stuff are coming down bc that what iv alwase liked |
Probably a lot more cheap priced things on CL than it seems as the bargains get bought up quick and taken off CL.I bought a New Holland 256 rake for $100 that stayed on CL about 30 minutes,bought a skid loader for $800 that stayed on about 2 hours.The overpriced stuff as you say stays on forever.I always say check CL to check the prices thing will not sell at.
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Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 8:25pm |
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Things in my area are coming down, IF you get out and look around. If you go buy cregslist and eday there not, but cregslist and ebay are more and more just the same high priced stuff just staying on for months and even years at a time. Iv bought 2 A farmalls for way less than 1000 in the last month, and there a 9n ford i know about for 300 that i may end up with. Im glade to see the 40s and 50s stuff are coming down bc that what iv alwase liked
Sorry about the dubble post idk what happen there
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