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rumleyallis 
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 Topic: Pouring Lead Bearings, HELP please
Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:22pm |
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Our old 30-60 Oil Pull needs a right rod bearing poured for it, we have the lead blocks but no knowhow on how to rebuild this old engine.
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Tracy Martin TN
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:26pm |
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Babbitt is what you need. Not lead. If you haven't done it before, might should have a professional do it. Not that hard, just need patience. HTH Tracy Martin
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:31pm |
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rumleyallis
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:33pm |
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thats the problem there arnt any professionals around, and now that you mention it these bricks were there to fix the bearing. but like i said how do you go about it, or is there anyone around South Central Pa that can pour them
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:41pm |
I thought they were about gone too but found a nice shop near darned near in my back yard, well a couple hours away. Harts Machine in Cecil Ohio. Ask for John.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 9:43pm |
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What I have found is the guys that know how to do it, don't spend anything on advertising. Ask anybody you meet that has an old tractor where you can have Babbitt bearings poured. My old boss read up on pouring Babbitt and then tried several times to pour bearings for his 1907 Hart Parr. I ended up making split bearings out of 660 bronze.He did find some help when he started working on the Aultman Taylor. Getting the heat right and preheating your assembly is muy importante.
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rumleyallis
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 10:05pm |
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Hey, thanks guys. Does anyone know what the dimensions for this bearing would be by chance
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Dave(inMA)
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 10:38pm |
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You might check to see if there's a Model A Ford club in your area. The Model A engines run Babbitt bearings, and engine rebuilders have the capability you need. BTW, add your location to your profile so we know where you are - will make it easier to help you.
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 11:09pm |
 rumleyallis wrote:
thats the problem there arnt any professionals around, and now that you mention it these bricks were there to fix the bearing. but like i said how do you go about it, or is there anyone around South Central Pa that can pour them
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I'd give Fred a call, if anybody would have a handle on who can do it Fred would, and he is just about a neighbor of yours
Somebody have Fred's shop number? I have it somewhere, but can't find it right now
Edited by LouSWPA - 28 Jul 2011 at 11:15pm
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Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 11:35pm |
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All the savy Model A Ford engine builders now just machine them for insert bearings out our way.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 12:11am |
Try these guys : http://www.andersonofrosholt.com/
Oh, and Rumely is spelled with the "E" before the "L", FYI.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 2:52pm |
Kip-Utah wrote:
All the savy Model A Ford engine builders now just machine them for insert bearings out our way. |
Why would anyone want to destroy the historic value of the A. Not to mention the fact that Babbitt bearings protect the journals a lot better than modern bearings. Why not just drop in a 302. Though exaggerated, it equates to the same thing. You've changed the fundamental design of the engine. Maybe I'm a purist but if you are not going to restore something right, give it to someone who will.
Edited by mdtractormechanic - 29 Jul 2011 at 2:54pm
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 3:02pm |
mdtractormechanic wrote:
Kip-Utah wrote:
All the savy Model A Ford engine builders now just machine them for insert bearings out our way. |
Why would anyone want to destroy the historic value of the A. Not to mention the fact that Babbitt bearings protect the journals a lot better than modern bearings. Why not just drop in a 302. Though exaggerated, it equates to the same thing. You've changed the fundamental design of the engine. Maybe I'm a purist but if you are not going to restore something right, give it to someone who will. |
Because nobody around there knows haw to do it, but they do know how to machine.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 3:59pm |
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Thanks for the links guys!
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 4:23pm |
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Hmmm - there are several Model A engine rebuilders in my area that do Babbitt bearings. Personally, I suspect that they are as "savy" as rebuilders elsewhere in the country.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 5:05pm |
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717-451-6590 is Freds # Uncle Bill has done it or knows were to get it done. Lots of steam guys around here.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 9:28pm |
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You can look in the Green Magazine or Two cylinder magazine. There are advertisments in both of them The JD guys run into that all the time. Bob
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Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 10:08pm |
RumleyAllis, You might want to give Bob a call @ http://www.bbdistributing.ypgs.net he used to be a frequent adviser on this site...but I have not heard from him in quite some time...course over the years many others have come and gone also. Dennis
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Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 10:41pm |
smokstak.com
should be some help here too if you are still looking.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 10:55pm |
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B & B has burnt to the ground, and rumor has it that he's now a scrap man.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 9:19am |
Darrel, Thanks for the correction...I had no idea! -Dennis
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