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    Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 10:26pm
I've got an 8 row 36 AC planter, model 600 with #78 row units on it, and the seed monitor only works on about 3 of the 8 rows. Was going to upgrade to a different planter this year, but looks like that won't happen, so I'd better do something to get a working monitor. I think to just go to an aftermarket one would maybe be my best option. I did see an ad one time for a company that made a monitor that was supposed to be compatible with anyones seed sensors, but I now have no idea of what the name of that company is. Anyone have any suggestions for me? I'm thinking that my problems are some in the monitor, some in the wiring harness, and some in the sensors, so starting from scratch may be a good option. Thanks, Darrel
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There's a guy on here from MN called monitor doc. May want to try to get it fixed?
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Well,  the first thing I would do, being an electronics guy, is find out where the problem really is.  I would hate for you to send the monitor in, only to find out the problem is in the wiring harness or the seed tubes.  The best troubleshooting I can think of is to remove the seed tube of a good row, and take it to the row that is dead, and then drop a few kernals down the tube.  Most of these should have quick connectors at the row unit, making this a fairly easy step.  I bet you will find your monitor really does work, and you have a few dead tubes, or you will in the above process find a few bad connections as well.  The other quick thing to do is veryfy that your harness doesn't have any nicks, pinched points, or broken insulation anywhere, as this will be a sure sign of internal wire damage.
 
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Been a very long time since I worked on one of those units. First, when you first turn the monitor on, I think all 8 lights should light up for a couples seconds....this is checking to be sure all the bulbs are OK....replace burned out bulbs as needed. Second, if the connection between the monitor and the planter is that rectanguler plug with flat spades, take a needle nose pliers and put a slight "twist" on each male tang.....then spray the female and male plugs with WD40 oil and assemble them together....then see what you got. I've fixed many back in the day just because of poor contact at the plug.
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Use some emory cloth on those connections, check to see that your monitor is connected to the BATTERY, not somewhere else, fixed many of units this way. It you have a 12 pin connector and you do need a consel, i have one i could sell. Good luck, those 12 pin connections need to be shiney clean. Randy
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I have done basically the same as OB when working on planters, and just take a wire from a bad row and move it to a row unit that works and see if that makes that row light up when you drop some seeds down the tube.  Just be sure to label which wire goes with which row before you start switching them, and 99% of the time I find the sensors are bad and nothing wrong with the monitor.
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call sensor one they are in KS. 1-800-736=7671. Jim
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thanks for help, guys. I'm pretty sure that a new wiring harness would be necessary to make the ole thing work,as it is in terrible shape, and I have my serious doubts that one is available any more, so that is kind of the reason that I thought maybe just upgrade the whole thing. The monitor was supposed to have been gone through not too long ago, before I bought the planter a year ago, so maybe there is hope for it. As for the sensors, they are slightly spendy, but I guess cheaper than the skip row plan I had last year! Darrel
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I got 2 12 row monitors on ebay for $36. The guy must have kept them in his sock drawer to be in that good of shape.
Sensors and wiring harness cause way more problems than console, in my experience.

It isn't too hard to make a planter half of the wiring harness. Each row has a common and a power wire and a signal wire. Main thing is to make sure wires can't catch in anything. No matter how windy it is.


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Does anyone have a good source for replacement sensors for the "78" units?

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Just re-using this thread here...  our planter monitor is no help at all.  It will blink some, but thats it.  So- I have checked it out.  (this is on a 4 row #77 air champ by the way) Ran a jumper wire on the monitor side of the 10pin connector from the power out to a signal port back to monitor and every light lights up when plugged in then removed from its individual plug.  I then made some jumpers to hook from the monitor's 10 pin plug directly to the sensors.  I have 2 that light up but dont' seem to send a signal, and 2 that dont light up and also dont send a signal.  So, I'm thinking its the sensors themselves, as I plugged back up to the harness (as if I were running in the field)  and got the same thing.  I've cleaned the 10 pin plug, both monitor and planter side.  but haven't found a way to clean the 3 sensor plugs.  I'm leaning toward the sensors being bad.  but all 4?? Thanks for any more help/information.   -Wes
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Wes, on mine I've come to the conclusion that my wiring and my sensors are bad, cause I tested my monitor on the advice of the "monitor doc" from this site, and it should be good. I ordered new sensors and a whole new harness from sensor 1, and I'm hoping for the best. Darrel
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Darrel, how did he say to check the monitor..by using a jumper wire like I did?  or some other way?  
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i quit using my 8-row monitor, as it started doing what darrel's was doing...had the box checked and it was o-k, started doing the sensors, they were o-k, started tracing wires, and they are tiny things...the monitor guy says never splice those wires. soooo. i just checked the planting every round for a day or two, and all was working...never used it again, never needed too! darrel when you decide to sell that planter let me know!
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You guys need the sensor test box.  I have one, it worked.  Saved a lot of guess work.  I dont want to sell it, but be on the lookout for one.
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