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Funny how times change, Grandmother for some reason had kept a series of pay envelopes of my Grandfather's, she destroyed them before we could abscond with them.  Had his annual payroll written on the outside, each pay period where showed taxes paid against gross pay and his net pay result which was In Cash in the envelopes back in the 1940s.  Shell Oil Co Roxana IL.  The envelope was returned for each subsequent payday until end of year so would be used as a W2 is today.  She kept the last IIRC four or five years worth before they paid in Paychecks.
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Dad was a Union Carpenter, I was pretty little, but I remember at least on some jobs they would hand out the checks, then cash them on the spot. I remember hearing dad saying something to mom about it.

the phone I have now belongs to the employer. When I retire, I will have one of those prepaid jobs. 
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

30 MILLION people dont have a checking account or VISA....WHAT NOW ?

Steve, who are these 30 million? how do they get their paycheck cashed? How do they pay bills? My suspicion is most of those are indigents, or illegals, and Like I said, one suggestion was 'barcoding' them. But, there are possibly some off the grid'rs  in that number, and they are some of the ones the gu'mnt is looking for! they WILL pay their taxes!


Lou, your thinking/assumptions are wrong Wink !!

well OK then, thanks for letting me know!
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one thing that really worked well for me thru the years...if i was anywhere to buy a large item, i would ask them how much...if paid in cash and they didn't hafta furnish a reciept for the item...worked very well every time cept once and i didn't buy anything from that dude, went elsewhere. always got things new/used ALOT cheaper. worked on repairs/parts/labor 
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if i don't have at leasta $100. in my pocket all the time...i feels nekkid.
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In my younger days we use to stop by the local bar after work on Friday.... Owner made a point of having $50K on hand every friday.. Local workers would line up to cash their pay checks with him.

I take the grandkids to McDonalds 2 times a week for lunch.. Drive thru.... 90% of the time, the guy in front of us is paying with CASH.. I use VISA.
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Know several here around Hermann, get their check go to grocery store, cash that check and go pay bills, NOT ever had a Bank Account, do not want one.  IRS hates them as has to send them a Check for refunds if ever get one, they send a Money Order when owe.  BTW, NOT Indigenous Nor Black Nor Latino, White as day is long, four are Women.

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Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

30 MILLION people dont have a checking account or VISA....WHAT NOW ?

Steve, who are these 30 million? how do they get their paycheck cashed? How do they pay bills? My suspicion is most of those are indigents, or illegals, and Like I said, one suggestion was 'barcoding' them. But, there are possibly some off the grid'rs  in that number, and they are some of the ones the gu'mnt is looking for! they WILL pay their taxes!


Lou, your thinking/assumptions are wrong Wink !!


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if the stores would just say "cash only" one day a week, that would cause havoc! this is just one more way the gubbermint wants to control things. maybe they'll all become communistic and kill all normal folks like they did the jewish people?
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I don`t have a checking account,  haven`t had one most my life.  I also don`t have a smart phone.   I have a flip phone that I take and use while on the road for emergencies only.  Most of the time it sits on my counter turned off.   WOW!  How did I live so long without either one?
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I remember, I think it was about 8 years ago now, there was talk about banks not taking cash, nor giving cash.  They were going to charge taxes on any paper checks deposited.  I never did hear anymore on that though, but maybe that was the start of all of this!!
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

30 MILLION people dont have a checking account or VISA....WHAT NOW ?

Steve, who are these 30 million? how do they get their paycheck cashed? How do they pay bills? My suspicion is most of those are indigents, or illegals, and Like I said, one suggestion was 'barcoding' them. But, there are possibly some off the grid'rs  in that number, and they are some of the ones the gu'mnt is looking for! they WILL pay their taxes!


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30 MILLION people dont have a checking account or VISA....WHAT NOW ?
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they were sposed to do away with the pennies several years ago...and we are still getting new ones.
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Originally posted by Gary in da UP Gary in da UP wrote:

Originally posted by nella(Pa) nella(Pa) wrote:

Cashless society.
They have been working on this for years.
      this move is for your own good...... first get rid of all the filthy paper  ,stop all the crimes involving cash drug deals, etc. and make it easier to monitor who is spending and for what and stop tax evaders.   jan 1st 2021 the gov plans to offer to buy all cash at face value plus 15%  and then destroy it.  that will tempt many people plus the fact that paper money will no longer transmit disease. an expiration date will be enforced to make cash worthless at the end of the buyback.  somehow the gov will make compliance unavoidable, if not patriotic.    With all the dollars printed this year and corona virus this is the perfect time for our gov to push this thru.......... Inflation will be with us a long time and interest rates wont rise anytime soon .  Barter systems will be based on whatever  happens to be in shortage  
LMAO !!!! You really think "BIG BROTHER" tracking your monetary spending  with a "card" is a GOOD THING Geek ???? Filthy paper,Unhappy ,WTH is THAT ???
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Cannot see it ever happening with the poor, can barely manage a Debit card against a bank account IF they have one, know a few that still do not and have to cash paychecks at the grocer to pay bills for the month.

Dave, I know people will laugh at me for this, but those people you speak of will be tattooed with a bar code! 
This IS coming, only a matter of when. It has it's advantages, but it will cost us our privacy and anonymity! every breath you take, every step you take, every choice you make will be monitored and recorded by the government, who knows better than oneself what is good for them. 

Most of us may not see it all in our lifetime, but we are already seeing it now, to a small degree. you already cannot travel feely w/o being monitored. in many states, you must have an EZ pass to travel toll roads, or, you will be billed by mail. That is all recorded. Your picture is taken as you roll through the gate, your auto registration number is recorded, and your ezpass is recorded. You go to the Dr, your picture is taken, all your personal information is recorded and placed in a national 'cloud bank'.

A lot of what we accept today as normal, our forefathers would be aghast at!!!!!
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Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

You can't do away with paper money!  What will those drug users use to roll up to snort their nose candy?  Or maybe that will just open up another market!!LOL

LOL The druggies can try using all the TP that was horded in March and April.LOL Or is that why my wife's news paper only get here about 50% of the time.LOL I thought they were just lazy.
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For what it's worth Sweden has been working on this for several years and is scheduled to go all cashless in 2023.  Granted it's a smaller country and fewer people.  Banks will probably love it because I'm sure there are fees involved and savings in not having to handle the money.  On the other hand fewer jobs.
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Yes, I don't see it happening in our life time.
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John... at least you can say you did not lose your roll of quarters at the casino. :)
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Several years ago I was at a convention in Lost Wages.  We were staying in one of the casinos, don't remember which.  I took a roll of quarters with me so I could win my fortune, discovered none of the slots took coins anymore.  Asked an employee about that, was told they changed over the machines to plastic because, 1 employees were getting sick and injured handling all the coins, 2. It cost more money to process the coins and 3. the insurance companies wanted to cut their expenses and offered cheaper rates if the casinos didn't deal with coins.  The guy told me the coin op laundry a couple blocks away still had coin slots but I never got there to try.  Came back with the roll.
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yeah 'cashless' society.... it'll happen after trees aren't needed cause 'computers will eliminate printing stuff'......
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You can't do away with paper money!  What will those drug users use to roll up to snort their nose candy?  Or maybe that will just open up another market!!LOL
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Cannot see it ever happening with the poor, can barely manage a Debit card against a bank account IF they have one, know a few that still do not and have to cash paychecks at the grocer to pay bills for the month.
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 jan 1st 2021 the gov plans to offer to buy all cash at face value plus 15%  and then destroy it. 

thats a good story... gets a lot of people cranked up... but no PROOF or reference to back it up ?  It aint happening.
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Won't stop anything, the necessity of a druggy to get his materials could switch to stolen goods barter or gold or silver, even loaded cartridges' or firearms.  Stolen cars motorcycles, titles, deeds, license plates you name it can be used as a barter object.
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Originally posted by nella(Pa) nella(Pa) wrote:

Cashless society.
They have been working on this for years.
      this move is for your own good...... first get rid of all the filthy paper  ,stop all the crimes involving cash drug deals, etc. and make it easier to monitor who is spending and for what and stop tax evaders.   jan 1st 2021 the gov plans to offer to buy all cash at face value plus 15%  and then destroy it.  that will tempt many people plus the fact that paper money will no longer transmit disease. an expiration date will be enforced to make cash worthless at the end of the buyback.  somehow the gov will make compliance unavoidable, if not patriotic.    With all the dollars printed this year and corona virus this is the perfect time for our gov to push this thru.......... Inflation will be with us a long time and interest rates wont rise anytime soon .  Barter systems will be based on whatever  happens to be in shortage  
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We got a Square reader for credit cards last year for use at the Farmers Market but had trouble with it, fortunately, we have a cash machine at the Markets and also sold "Market Bucks", $5 script, good at any stand.  Also people got  WIC and SNAP vouchers.  This year we only have a couple scrip vouchers, no Market Bucks and my sales are about 50/50 cash or credit cards.  Got a new Square machine and it works pretty well.  With all the rules and restrictions I now bag up the peaches and another guy takes the money or card payment.  It's working OK so far.  I seriously doubt that cash will go away completely in the near future. 
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Originally posted by Gary in da UP Gary in da UP wrote:

Yet no one here has bought this up?    

I did, week or so ago in political section
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People all over are now using the credit card readers that plug into a cell phone.  You can pay the babysitter online.  HD's self checkouts are Card only now.  I did have to drop a few dollars into the can at a roadside produce stand today so I don't know how that'll work!
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