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bigcountry48 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Would anyone here recommend the restoration or regular series valspar PO1 from tractor supply?
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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Ian ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Carroll, Ohio Points: 86 |
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interested in the answer too. They only have one color, appears to be persian #2?
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1958 AC D14 1960 AC D14 1987 Cub 1204 1982 Cub 682 1974 Cub 154 Lo-Boy (SOLD) Hauler: 1998 Dodge Ram2500 Cummins |
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Butch(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3842 |
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Closest thing TSC has to PO1 is Kubota paint. The A-C paint is mot a match for PO1 or 2 maybe that late color? |
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bigcountry48 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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So if I were to buy paint from them I should get the Kubota because, that is the closest they have. Also who should I talk to about decals?
Edited by bigcountry48 - 06 Mar 2012 at 8:09pm |
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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Gary in da UP ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EUP of Mi. Points: 1885 |
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NOPE
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I started out years ago with nothing.... after this divorce , I'll be getting most of it back.........
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Gordy ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SWMI Points: 2533 |
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Have used it with good results, use a good reducer and hardener
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Dave in il ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748 |
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So you're saying their AC paint doesn't actually match any AC paint. Good enough for a quicky cheap paint job on a working tractor but not something you put time and effort in.
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AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company
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Sheridan-Utah ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Location: Southern Utah Points: 107 |
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I have had good results with VanSickel paint and hardner in final coat. It is corporate ornage but is available in PO1 and PO2. My tractors are sheded but have been painted for several years.
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HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON
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Gary in da UP ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EUP of Mi. Points: 1885 |
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Spend the decal money on better paint. Why waste time and money on cheap stuff? , Your Allis deserves better ......
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I started out years ago with nothing.... after this divorce , I'll be getting most of it back.........
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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I had good results with Valspar Refinish BC/CC on the Ferguson.
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
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79fordblake ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: West Kentucky Points: 829 |
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This D14 is painted with Valspar paint from TSC.
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ac.d17iv ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: SWIA Points: 103 |
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Valspar paint at TSC is Corporate Orange.
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What tractor are you painting, If it's your B it should be Persian # 1 I have had luck with PPGG's "shop line variety" our Dust and son sells it here and I use the Acrylic urethane one step with hardener. I painted a d14 that sits out a BUNCH about six years ago, it is still glossy and looks great. I think it runs about 70 a gallon, so its a little over double what farm store enamel is, but I like it for me. I used some Van Sickle once with luck too- I would now just rather use the PPG. Just my preference. I think all these tractors pictured above look amazing though. Nice work you guys!
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5597 |
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I bought a under hood starter fuel tank from Larry Swenson at Hutchinson a few years ago. It had a square piece of straping still on one of the three bolts to keep it away from the under side of the hood. This piece of cloth has a great sample of PO1 paint. Van Sickle offers all 3 AC oranges as does AGCO, non are as close as a custom order PO1-CML4019-0 Persian Orange from Van Sickle. It is a spot on match to the paint on this cloth sample. It has that brownish or burnt look. It comes with a fan spray tip. Best of all, when dry, it still has that wet shinny look. Van Sickle CML4019-0 Persian Orange.
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3971 |
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I used the restoration series on My WD 45 several years ago. Use the thiner and harderner that go with it . it has held up well and still looks good. I've used it befor with the same results. The tractor my Nephew painted with it 10 years ago still looks good. the niceest thing about it you can get the restoration series in a spray can. I used it for touch on hardware and missed small pices after I assembled and it matched nicely.
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Butch(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3842 |
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Fender extensions and battery boxes on our 22o were painted with Valspar restoration grade A-C paint. It is actually more red than shows up in the picture. Definitely not PO1and redder than the PO2 220, maybe corporate? I don't know. It's just there to keep things from rusting until we repaint the entire unit. WD in background is wearing Ditzler 60080, what most consider proper shade PO1
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Don(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 3887 |
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Butch, is the rest of the tractor original paint? Or has it been repainted? If its original, thats the best 220 I have ever seen!
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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I was not happy with the TSC paints even though I liked the price. When Rural King came to town I tried their paint which I liked better as far as applying and fade. It also fades fast if out in the weather all the time like my tractors are. I have never been satisfied with color match and is why I buy New Holland yellow and mix into the Allis Chalmers Orange to get my desired shade of orange. I started buying Eastwoods diamond clear for wheels to use as a top coat. That helps with the fade and is resistant to scratches and fuel. I called Eastwood's paint tec people and they said they had done tests over enamel and had good results. The fellow said they would not advertise using it over enamel because if it was coated to heavy it would dissolve the enamel. I found this to be true. It is like said on Hee Haw. It hurts when I do that! Then don't do that!
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24665 |
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Ok , dum question...
Does anybody have the official factory paint manufacturers numbers ? I mean something that actually says how many drops of this and that to create the 'PO1' that's in the can?
Frankly my eyes ain't what they used to be, so being 'close' is good enough for me.
Just curious
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2516 |
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As Far as paint, I shoot Dupont Nason, which I like. Seems to lay down good and is pretty forgiving to mess-ups.
I painted a lawnmower traile with the Valspar paint from TSC, so far so good, but I didnt care on that....just needed something to keep it from rusting
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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mdm1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2677 |
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I have used both. It all depends on what you are doing with your tractors. Mine are both working but I wanted them to look good. If I do another one I will go to an auto paint store, suck it up and buy better. Farm store paints are functional as a protecter I think but sometimes the cheapest part of a paint job is indeed the paint.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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bigcountry48 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1100 |
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Still need some advice on decals, who should I talk to anyone here?
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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