Paint color

I am new, don’t kill me. I purchased a 1940 AC B that I think was restored in the past. I want to touch up a few places in the paint. Is there only one AC orange color or did it change over time.? Thanks

Welcome to the forum. As mentioned, there were 3 different factory orange colors over the years. Many tractors now don't have the correct shade for the year they were made, or have a unique shade of their own, including restored ones. Adding a picture to the post may help identify which you have, but your best bet may be to buy some color matched paint from a paint supplier.

Thank you all very much. Very helpful

Persian Orange Paint

From AGCO Persian Orange #1
In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 (in Canada November 2012)
In the Spray Can #79014664 ---- $14 (in Canada November 2012)
They don't sell gallons.

From AGCO Persian Orange #2
In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60

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Manuf                    Paint Color                                 Ditzler        Dupont      NAPA            Martin Seynor    Tisco
                            Name                                         PPG
Persian #1
Allis Chalmers        Persian Orange                             60080                         3723L99        90R-3723        TP280

Persian #2
Allis Chalmers        Persian Orange                             60396        29047
Allis Chalmers        Tractor & Equipment Orange    60856
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Page From PPG Paints

Allis Chalmers Cream---------------------------------    8638
Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color-----------    23056
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81233
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81611
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81985
Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow-----------------------    81475
Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080
Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396
Allis Chalmers Orange--------------------------------    60691
Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange----------    60856
Allis Chalmers Yellow----------------------------------   81330
Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------    81960
Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------    82373
Allis Chalmers Yellow----------------------------------    82630
Allis Chalmers Black-----------------------------------    9000
Allis Chalmers Black-----------------------------------    9300
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I think there is a #1820 Krylon for Persion Orange 1.
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Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange
PPG Formula For OMNI Acrylic Urethane (MTK60080) (NO LONGER SOLD)
Single Stage Color
Qty: 1 Quart

Code        Color                      Cumulative        Parts
M117        Jet Black                    15.4              15.4
M120        Tinting                        35.2              19.8
M115        Yellow O                   173.5            138.3
M114        Light Ch                    326.6            153.1
M130        Orange                     514.6            188.0
M195        Accelera                    533.8              19.2
M149        Mixing C                  1150.0            616.7

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Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange
PPG Formula For Deltron "Concept" Acrylic Urethane (DCC60080)
Single Stage Color
Qty: 1 Quart
PPG Color Library
Color: Orange MSDS: DCC2        VOC: 4.11        Lead: 15.98%

Code            Color                                           Cumulative        Parts
DMC90        Strong White                                        35.4               35.4
DMC90        Yellow Shade Moly Orange                 1127.7            1092.3
DMC90        Medium Chrome Yellow                     1489.6            361.9
DMC90        Carbon Black                                    1523.9            34.3

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I like PPG Delastr Acrylic enamel 60080, perfect PO1 match, great paint.
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PPG Automotive Finishes
Tractor and Implement Colors

        Caution: This list was assembled using three different PPG sources plus input from others. There was no information concerning model or year, except as noted. Use this list at your own risk. There are no guarantees. I have only confirmed the AC early persian orange, sometimes referred to as "persian #1", as 60080. Most of the codes should be available in most, if not all, current PPG automotive paint chemistries, including the economy OMNI line. See your local PPG jobber for details. I strongly suggest first purchasing the smallest possible quantity in an attempt to verify the proper shade. Custom mixed colors are not returnable. Unfortunately, whenever a color proper name has multiple codes listed against it, I have no idea which one is appropriate for your application. If you are particular about shade, you may have to sample them all. If you wish to get information on the different chemistries available from PPG, including technical data sheets (detailed usage info) and material safety data sheets (MSDS=safety & health info), go to the PPG website. http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmHome.asp

        Allis Chalmers Cream------------------------------------    8638
        Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color--------------    23056
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81233
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81611
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81985
        Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow-------------------------     81475
        Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)--    60080
        Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)--    60396
        Allis Chalmers Orange-----------------------------------    60691
        Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange-------------    60856
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    81330
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    81960
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    82373
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    82630
        Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------   9000
        Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------- 9300

I have some AGCO Persian Orange 1. I believe AGCO paint is made by Valspar.

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	I am new, don’t kill me. I purchased a 1940 AC B that I think was restored in the past. I want to touch up a few places in the paint. Is there only one AC orange color or did it change over time.? Thanks

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Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4529	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 7:46pm
	There are actually 3 different shades of orange Up until and including 1960 Persian orange #1 was used Starting in 1961 until 1977 Persian orange #2 was used In 1977 until the end Corporate orange was used
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GreenOrange Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 835	Post Options Post Reply Quote GreenOrange Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 8:53pm
	Welcome to the forum. As mentioned, there were 3 different factory orange colors over the years. Many tractors now don't have the correct shade for the year they were made, or have a unique shade of their own, including restored ones. Adding a picture to the post may help identify which you have, but your best bet may be to buy some color matched paint from a paint supplier.

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85443	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 9:05pm
	Your tractor should have more of a Pumpkin color... If it is more ORANGE or RED, then the repaint might not be the original color..
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Crestonite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 01 Mar 2021 Location: Tn/Va Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Crestonite Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 9:05pm
	Thank you all very much. Very helpful

DSeries4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7433	Post Options Post Reply Quote DSeries4 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 10:24am
	It depends on what shade of orange the person restored it with. Some have used orange paint from a hardware store. I personally have seen many different colors that people have said is Persian Orange 1. Best thing to do is take a small piece off the tractor and take it to a paint shop to get some paint blended to that color. Lots of places can put them in rattle cans too.
	'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080

coggonobrien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: Eastern Iowa Points: 1846	Post Options Post Reply Quote coggonobrien Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 3:08pm
	Persian Orange Paint From AGCO Persian Orange #1 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 (in Canada November 2012) In the Spray Can #79014664 ---- $14 (in Canada November 2012) They don't sell gallons. From AGCO Persian Orange #2 In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuf Paint Color Ditzler Dupont NAPA Martin Seynor Tisco Name PPG Persian #1 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60080 3723L99 90R-3723 TP280 Persian #2 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange 60396 29047 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange 60856 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page From PPG Paints Allis Chalmers Cream--------------------------------- 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color----------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow---- 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow----------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange-------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange---------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow--------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------- 9300 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think there is a #1820 Krylon for Persion Orange 1. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For OMNI Acrylic Urethane (MTK60080) (NO LONGER SOLD) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart Code Color Cumulative Parts M117 Jet Black 15.4 15.4 M120 Tinting 35.2 19.8 M115 Yellow O 173.5 138.3 M114 Light Ch 326.6 153.1 M130 Orange 514.6 188.0 M195 Accelera 533.8 19.2 M149 Mixing C 1150.0 616.7 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange PPG Formula For Deltron "Concept" Acrylic Urethane (DCC60080) Single Stage Color Qty: 1 Quart PPG Color Library Color: Orange MSDS: DCC2 VOC: 4.11 Lead: 15.98% Code Color Cumulative Parts DMC90 Strong White 35.4 35.4 DMC90 Yellow Shade Moly Orange 1127.7 1092.3 DMC90 Medium Chrome Yellow 1489.6 361.9 DMC90 Carbon Black 1523.9 34.3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I like PPG Delastr Acrylic enamel 60080, perfect PO1 match, great paint. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PPG Automotive Finishes Tractor and Implement Colors Caution: This list was assembled using three different PPG sources plus input from others. There was no information concerning model or year, except as noted. Use this list at your own risk. There are no guarantees. I have only confirmed the AC early persian orange, sometimes referred to as "persian #1", as 60080. Most of the codes should be available in most, if not all, current PPG automotive paint chemistries, including the economy OMNI line. See your local PPG jobber for details. I strongly suggest first purchasing the smallest possible quantity in an attempt to verify the proper shade. Custom mixed colors are not returnable. Unfortunately, whenever a color proper name has multiple codes listed against it, I have no idea which one is appropriate for your application. If you are particular about shade, you may have to sample them all. If you wish to get information on the different chemistries available from PPG, including technical data sheets (detailed usage info) and material safety data sheets (MSDS=safety & health info), go to the PPG website. http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmHome.asp Allis Chalmers Cream------------------------------------ 8638 Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color-------------- 23056 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81233 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81611 Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------ 81985 Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow------------------------- 81475 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)-- 60080 Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)-- 60396 Allis Chalmers Orange----------------------------------- 60691 Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange------------- 60856 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81330 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 81960 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82373 Allis Chalmers Yellow------------------------------------- 82630 Allis Chalmers Black--------------------------------------- 9000 Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------- 9300

coggonobrien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: Eastern Iowa Points: 1846	Post Options Post Reply Quote coggonobrien Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 3:09pm
	I used the ppg code above to have oreilly auto mix and load aersols of persion #2

WF owner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4889	Post Options Post Reply Quote WF owner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 4:50pm
	I have some AGCO Persian Orange 1. I believe AGCO paint is made by Valspar.

johnpschmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 08 Mar 2021 Location: United States Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnpschmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 2:56pm
	I would like to recommend NAPA paint. It's not show car quality, however it sprays really nice and is fairly affordable. The only complaint I have is that it started to peel on the block, however is lasted at least 5 years.