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    Posted: 03 Mar 2016 at 8:12am
These are for ALL tractors, but mainly Allis.  I don't know where I got all this information.  Most of it is from here, but some is from other sites and from the manufacturers themselves.  So, here's what you need to know.  I know there will be a lot of others that add to this, so have at it.  It'll help all the new kids on the block and us old fogeys who have CRS.
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Persian Orange Paint

From AGCO Persian Orange #1
In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60 (in Canada November 2012)
In the Spray Can #79014664 ---- $14 (in Canada November 2012)
They don't sell gallons.

From AGCO Persian Orange #2
In the Quart Can #79014785 ---- $60

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Manuf                    Paint Color                                 Ditzler        Dupont      NAPA            Martin Seynor    Tisco
                            Name                                         PPG
Persian #1
Allis Chalmers        Persian Orange                              60080                         3723L99        90R-3723        TP280

Persian #2
Allis Chalmers         Persian Orange                              60396         29047             
Allis Chalmers         Tractor & Equipment Orange    60856
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Allis Chalmers Cream---------------------------------    8638
Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color-----------    23056
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81233
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81611
Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow----    81985
Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow-----------------------    81475
Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)- 60080
Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)- 60396
Allis Chalmers Orange--------------------------------    60691
Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange----------    60856
Allis Chalmers Yellow----------------------------------   81330
Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------    81960
Allis Chalmers Yellow---------------------------------    82373
Allis Chalmers Yellow----------------------------------    82630
Allis Chalmers Black-----------------------------------    9000
Allis Chalmers Black-----------------------------------    9300
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I sell the VanSickle paint in both Persain Orange 1 and 2 along with creme and many other colors.  The cost is $9.00 per can plus shipping.  The cans are slow drying paint but color matches very well.  I also sell the the paint in gallons with hardner.  I will be at the show in Fortwayne, In in April, or I can ship it.
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I think there is a  #1820 Krylon for Persion Orange 1.
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Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange
PPG Formula For OMNI Acrylic Urethane (MTK60080)  (NO LONGER SOLD)
Single Stage Color
Qty: 1 Quart

Code        Color                      Cumulative        Parts
M117        Jet Black                    15.4              15.4
M120        Tinting                        35.2              19.8
M115        Yellow O                   173.5            138.3
M114        Light Ch                    326.6            153.1
M130        Orange                     514.6            188.0
M195        Accelera                    533.8              19.2
M149        Mixing C                  1150.0            616.7

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Allis Chalmers Early Persian Orange
PPG Formula For Deltron "Concept" Acrylic Urethane (DCC60080)
Single Stage Color
Qty: 1 Quart
PPG Color Library
Color: Orange  MSDS: DCC2        VOC: 4.11        Lead: 15.98%

Code            Color                                            Cumulative        Parts
DMC90        Strong White                                        35.4                35.4
DMC90        Yellow Shade Moly Orange                 1127.7            1092.3
DMC90        Medium Chrome Yellow                     1489.6            361.9
DMC90        Carbon Black                                    1523.9            34.3

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I like PPG Delastr Acrylic enamel 60080, perfect PO1 match, great paint.
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PPG Automotive Finishes
Tractor and Implement Colors

        Caution: This list was assembled using three different PPG sources plus input from others. There was no information concerning model or year, except as noted. Use this list at your own risk. There are no guarantees. I have only confirmed the AC early persian orange, sometimes referred to as "persian #1", as 60080. Most of the codes should be available in most, if not all, current PPG automotive paint chemistries, including the economy OMNI line. See your local PPG jobber for details. I strongly suggest first purchasing the smallest possible quantity in an attempt to verify the proper shade. Custom mixed colors are not returnable. Unfortunately, whenever a color proper name has multiple codes listed against it, I have no idea which one is appropriate for your application. If you are particular about shade, you may have to sample them all. If you wish to get information on the different chemistries available from PPG, including technical data sheets (detailed usage info) and material safety data sheets (MSDS=safety & health info), go to the PPG website. http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmHome.asp

        Allis Chalmers Cream------------------------------------    8638
        Allis Chalmers Cream (Beige) - Trim Color--------------    23056
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81233
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81611   
        Allis Chalmers Earth Removing Equipment Yellow------    81985   
        Allis Chalmers Lift Truck Yellow-------------------------     81475
        Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #1, so called)--    60080
        Allis Chalmers Persian Orange (Persian #2, so called)--    60396
        Allis Chalmers Orange-----------------------------------    60691
        Allis Chalmers Tractor & Equipment Orange-------------    60856
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    81330
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    81960
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    82373
        Allis Chalmers Yellow-------------------------------------    82630
        Allis Chalmers Black---------------------------------------   9000
        Allis Chalmers Black----------------------------------------  9300

        American Crane Yellow-------------------------------------    82295

        Blau Knox Yellow--------------------------------------------    82069

        Bobcat Red--------------------------------------------------    72155
        Bobcat Silver------------------------------------------------    35388

        Bucyrus Erie Yellow------------------------------------------    82536
        Bucyrus Erie Maroon----------------------------------------    50743

        Case Desert Sunset------------------------------------------    81357
        Case Desert Camouflage-------------------------------------    25829
        Case Flambeau Red-------------------------------------------    3116
        Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------    70138
        Case Flambeau Red------------------------------------------    71282
        Case Black-----------------------------------------------------    9000
        Case Black-----------------------------------------------------    9300
        Case Black-----------------------------------------------------    9519
        Case Dark Brown---------------------------------------------    25550
        Case Power Tan----------------------------------------------    25549
        Case Power Tan-----------------------------------------------    26071
        Case Gray-----------------------------------------------------    32678
        Case Corporate Red------------------------------------------    72898
        Case Red------------------------------------------------------    73252
        Case Medium Yellow-------------------------------------------   82305
        Case Power Yellow - Medium - #B-174-21------------------    82308
        Case Tractor Industrial Yellow---------------------------------    89962
        Case Tractor Orange-----------------------------------------    60432
        Case Tractor Orange-----------------------------------------    60703
        Case Tractor Orange-----------------------------------------    60906
        Case Tractor Yellow-----------------------------------------    89952
        Case Manila White--------------------------------------------    90393
        Case White-----------------------------------------------------    8857

        Caterpillar Highway yellow----------------------------------    80979
        Caterpillar Yellow (old - replaced by 80979)-------------    80021
        Caterpillar Yellow----------------------------------------------    81985
        Caterpillar Yellow----------------------------------------------    82454
        Caterpillar Yellow----------------------------------------------    83930
        Caterpillar Yellow (Ford)------------------------------------    81661
        Caterpillar Yellow (GM)-------------------------------------    81993
        Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------    82785
        Caterpillar Yellow (1996)------------------------------------    83922
        Caterpillar New Yellow (most common)------------------    82943
        Caterpillar New Yellow---------------------------------------    88046
        Caterpillar Tractor Yellow-----------------------------------    80453
        Caterpillar Tractor Beige-------------------------------------    22393
        Caterpillar White----------------------------------------------    2185
        Caterpillar White----------------------------------------------    98041
        Caterpillar White (Ford)-------------------------------------    8709
        Caterpillar Mojave Brown (1997)--------------------------    28605
        Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)--------------------------------    36435
        Caterpillar Slate Gray (1997)--------------------------------    36457
        Caterpillar Black-----------------------------------------------    9000
        Caterpillar Black-----------------------------------------------    9300
        Caterpillar Black-----------------------------------------------    95020
        Caterpillar High Gloss Black (1997)-----------------------    95021
        Caterpillar Semi Gloss Black (1997)-----------------------    95022
        Caterpillar Medium Gloss Black (1997)-------------------    95023
        Caterpillar Low Gloss Black (1997)-----------------------    95024
        Caterpillar Interior Brown-----------------------------------    25789

        Clark Hi-Lift Olive Green------------------------------------    40250
        Clark Hi-Lift Yellow------------------------------------------    81689
        Clark Lift Light Green----------------------------------------    2885
        Clark Lift White-----------------------------------------------    2185
        Clark Lift Truck Fire Engine Red--------------------------    72203
        Clark Lift Truck Gray (1965-1966)------------------------    32583
        Clark Lift Truck Green (1976)------------------------------    42095
        Clark Lift Truck Green (1977)(#1801564)----------------    45415
        Clark Lift Truck Olive Green (#1800641)----------------    44705
        Clark Lift Truck Orange (#1873147)----------------------    60487
        Clark Lift Truck Yellow (#1813150)----------------------    81651
        Clark Lift Truck White (#181570)-------------------------    8000
        Clark Equipment Gray---------------------------------------    32123
        Clark Equipment Green (#180642)------------------------    44540
        Clark Equipment Green (#1800645)-----------------------    44205
        Clark Equipment Orange------------------------------------    60532
        Clark Equipment Orange (Flat)-----------------------------    60533
        Clark Equipment Yellow-------------------------------------    81302
        Clark Equipment Yellow-------------------------------------    80502
        Clark Yellow---------------------------------------------------    81892

        Cletra Orange--------------------------------------------------    60045
        Cletra Orange--------------------------------------------------    60376

        Cockshutt Tractor Red--------------------------------------    78210
        Cockshutt Tractor Harvest Gold---------------------------    83761
        Cockshutt Tractor Yellow-----------------------------------    88234

        Crane Company Orange-------------------------------------    60431
        Crane Carrier Orange-----------------------------------------    60583

        David Brown Tractor White--------------------------------    8638

        Dempster Dumpster Gray-----------------------------------    31832
        Dempster Dumpster Green----------------------------------    45284

        Ditch Witch Orange (New)----------------------------------    61540
        Ditch Witch Orange------------------------------------------    60862

        Euclid HIlite Green-------------------------------------------    45771
        Euclid Maroon-------------------------------------------------    50743
        Euclid Yellow--------------------------------------------------    82536

        Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------    30419
        Ferguson Gray------------------------------------------------    32830

        Fiat Allis Orange----------------------------------------------    60740
        Fiat Allis Yellow----------------------------------------------        2325

        Ford Beige----------------------------------------------    -------    33186
        Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------    30570
        Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------    32663
        Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)-----------------------------------    32675
        Ford Yellow---------------------------------------------------    82536
        Ford Light Yellow--------------------------------------------    82549
        Ford Red-------------------------------------------------------    2833
        Ford Red (1947)----------------------------------------------    70075
        Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------    72598
        Ford Equipment Dark Blue----------------------------------    12908
        Ford New Tractor Red--------------------------------------    71969
        Ford New Tractor Silver------------------------------------    33442
        Ford Tractor Blue (1962)------------------------------------    12720
        Ford Tractor Blue (1963-1965) - M20J1639A-----------    12809
        Ford Tractor Buff---------------------------------------------    81339
        Ford Tractor Gray--------------------------------------------    30448
        Ford Tractor Gray (1965) - M20J1750-A----------------    32571
        Ford Tractor Gray (1965)-----------------------------------    32571
        Ford Tractor Green------------------------------------------    42940
        Ford Tractor Yellow (20J3132A)--------------------------    82179
        Ford Tractor Yellow (New) (M2J5394-A)---------------    82291
        Ford Tractor Orange Red-----------------------------------    71346
        Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)----------------------------    3155
        Ford Tractor Vermillion-------------------------------------    70205
        Ford Tractor White-------------------------------------------    8712
        Ford Tractor & Implement Buff #1640 (1967)----------    22914
        Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------    4068
        Ford Tractor & Implement Buff (1967)------------------    4119

        Gallion Highway Yellow-------------------------------------    80020

        GM - Terex Green--------------------------------------------    2960
        GM - Terex Green--------------------------------------------    2963

        Gravely Tractor Beige----------------------------------------    22136
        Gravely Tractor Red------------------------------------------    70186
        Gravely Tractor Mustang Red (Orange)------------------    60524

        Husky Tractor Gold (FMC)--------------------------------    22390
        Husky Tractor White (FMC)-------------------------------    8377

        Hyster Yellow-------------------------------------------------    82373

        International Cub Cadet Yellow----------------------------    81518
        International Cub Cadet White (IH-901)------------------    8665
        International White (IH-902)--------------------------------    90592
        International White (IH-935)--------------------------------    91607
        International Apple Green #2-------------------------------    40055
        International Blue----------------------------------------------    10067
        International Red----------------------------------------------    2833
        International Red (Light) #50-------------------------------    70019
        International Gray #112 (Light)-----------------------------    30074
        International Gray #110 (Dark)-----------------------------    30031
        International Green Apple-----------------------------------    40250
        International Harvester Red IH-2150----------------------    71310
        International Harvester Brown------------------------------    20048
        International Harvester Tan #31----------------------------    20214

        Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange---------------------    60459
        Jacobsen Power Lawnmower Orange---------------------    60816
        Jacobsen Lawn Tractor Orange----------------------------    69916

        John Deere Brown (Low Gloss Interior)------------------    28374
        John Deere Construction Yellow---------------------------    81518
        John Deere Contracting Equipment Yellow---------------    81304
        John Deere Dark Brown-------------------------------------    26151
        John Deere Green---------------------------------------------    40249
        John Deere Green---------------------------------------------    47910
        John Deere Implement & Product Division Yellow-----    82009
        John Deere Industrial Yellow-------------------------------    82295
        John Deere Industrial Yellow-------------------------------    83018
        John Deere Industrial Yellow-------------------------------    83558
        John Deere Industrial Dealers Yellow---------------------    81638
        John Deere Snowmobile Green-----------------------------    45117
        John Deere Tractor Green-----------------------------------    41374
        John Deere Tractor Green-----------------------------------    46180
        John Deere Yellow--------------------------------------------    80186
        John Deere Yellow (1967)-------------------------------    ----    81687
        John Deere Yellow (1967)-------------------------------    ----    81058
        John Deere Yellow (1967)-----------------------------------    81986
        John Deere Yellow (1991)-----------------------------------    83416
        John Deere Yellow (1995)-----------------------------------    81512

        Kubota Orange------------------------------------------------    60550

        Kingboy Tractor Yellow-------------------------------------    82744

        Komatsu Yellow----------------------------------------------      2381
        Komatsu Yellow----------------------------------------------    82261
        Komatsu New Yellow----------------------------------------    83059
        Komatsu New Blue-------------------------------------------    17080
        Komatsu Orange----------------------------------------------    60583

        Marion Power Shovel Co. Charcoal-----------------------    32728
        Marion Power Shovel Co. Neutral gray-------------------    32727
        Marion Power Shovel Co. Red-----------------------------    71706

        Massey Ferguson Red---------------------------------------    72598
        Massey Ferguson Silver Mist Gray (Met.) (M-1037)---    31991
        Massey Ferguson Yellow------------------------------------    81518
        Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (M-1026)---------    31645
        Massey Ferguson Tractor Flint Gray (Met.) (M-1025)-    31644
        Massey Ferguson Tractor Red M-1017------------------    70837
        Massey Ferguson Tractor Yellow M-1023---------------    81217

        Massey-Harris Red-------------------------------------------    70364
        Massey-Harris Red-------------------------------------------    70837
        Massey-Harris Yellow----------------------------------------    2492
        Massey-Harris Yellow----------------------------------------    80533

        Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown--------------------------    22394
        Minneapolis Moline Dyna Brown #2 (1967)-------------    23049
        Minneapolis Moline Orange---------------------------------    60740
        Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold---------------------------    60098
        Minneapolis Moline Prairie Gold #2-----------------------    60039
        Minneapolis Moline Red-------------------------------------    71528
        Minneapolis Moline Red-------------------------------------    70385

        New Holland Tractor Red-----------------------------------    72263
        New Holland Tractor Yellow-------------------------------    82348

        Oliver Clover White (1959)---------------------------------    8229
        Oliver Clover White (1959)---------------------------------    8805
        Oliver Cletrac Orange----------------------------------------    60583
        Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal---------------------------    33768
        Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal---------------------------    34347
        Oliver Equipment Dark Charcoal #90833-----------------    33194
        Oliver Equipment Green (1959)----------------------------    42638
        Oliver Equipment Silver Poly (Met.) #90832------------    -    8960
        Oliver Equipment Green (1959)----------------------------    41223
        Oliver Green---------------------------------------------------    45132
        Oliver Green---------------------------------------------------    40249
        Oliver Green---------------------------------------------------    40812
        Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)-----------------------------    81154
        Oliver Industrial Yellow (1959)-----------------------------    82335
        Oliver Orange--------------------------------------------------    60433
        Oliver Yellow--------------------------------------------------    81892

        Rex Chain Belt Bright Green--------------------------------    45284
        Rex Chain Belt Bright Orange------------------------------    60691
        Rex Chain Belt Medium Gray------------------------------    31576
        Rex Chain Belt Medium Green-----------------------------    44665
        Rex Chain Belt Yellow---------------------------------------    81985

        Sperry New Holland Red------------------------------------    61026
        Sperry New Holland Yellow--------------------------------    82536

        Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Brown---------------------------    22312
        Thew Lorain Shovel Co. Yellow---------------------------    81329

        Toyota Fork Lift Orange------------------------------------    60156

        Versatile Tractor Red----------------------------------------    72233

        Warner-Swasey-----------------------------------------------    82073

        Wheel Horse Tractor Red-----------------------------------    72034

        White Farm Tractor Blue------------------------------------    12773
        White Farm Tractor Orange--------------------------------    2235
        White Farm Tractor Red------------------------------------    72231


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KNOWLEDGE BASE<-------
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, R62, R72 HD15
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Originally posted by CAL(KS) CAL(KS) wrote:

KNOWLEDGE BASE<-------


Ditto!
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Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Originally posted by CAL(KS) CAL(KS) wrote:

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Ditto!

Definitely ! Big smile
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Thanks Ted.
This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease.
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Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Originally posted by CAL(KS) CAL(KS) wrote:

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Ditto!

Absolutely!
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Thanks Ted.
This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease.
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Originally posted by pete386 pete386 wrote:

Thanks Ted.
This is wonderful for an old guy with CRS disease.
Mike that 2nd time made my day!!  I'm still laughing!!LOL
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what about the green used on the early allis tractors
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I could do some digging, but I don't think I've ever run into that?
Anybody else??  ESPECIALLY you guys that have them?
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I'm pretty confused by some of the paint codes....Why are there so many Ford reds and grays, JD green and yellows, MM golds and reds, oliver greens, etc?

Ex:
Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------    30570
        Ford Gray------------------------------------------------------    32663
        Ford Gray (1948 & 1954)-----------------------------------    32675
        Ford Yellow---------------------------------------------------    82536
        Ford Light Yellow--------------------------------------------    82549
        Ford Red-------------------------------------------------------    2833
        Ford Red (1947)----------------------------------------------    70075
        Ford Light Red------------------------------------------------    72598
Ford Tractor Vermillion (1949)----------------------------    3155
        Ford Tractor Vermillion-------------------------------------    70205

Which one is which? I know the gray on the 9N's and 2N's were darker than the 8N gray, but the red on the 8N's, Jubilee, and I believe 800 series were the same. So why so many different codes? Just trying to make sense of all this. Thanks!

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It all had to do with the year of manufacture.  Just like PO paint.  PO #1 and PO#2.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the first listed is the early paint and then somewhere along the way it changed (unless noted).  HTH Creston.
AND every batch was not the same.  There were some variances in each lot and some were noticeable.
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You might try contacting AJ in Jefferson City, Mo. I think he has been working with a paint company to solve this PO color problem.
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Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components so you can see exactly what's in it, etc.? Then you could buy a quart of PO#1 from AGCO, pour it in, and get the code and adapt it for a real high-quality paint. 
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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Why can't they just invent a machine that you just pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components so you can see exactly what's in it, etc.? Then you could buy a quart of PO#1 from AGCO, pour it in, and get the code and adapt it for a real high-quality paint. 

Start inventing!Star!Thumbs Up!Exclamation! (if you are lucky, when you make one of these witchy-gidgy machines, you will become rich and then you can buy lots of ORANGE TRACTORS! Big smileBig smile)
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Creston M wrote

Why can't they just invent a machine that you just
pour paint into, and it breaks it down into its components

they make a machine for that it`s a
hand-held spectrophotometers

http://www.xrite.com/ma9x-family


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jonny B 1938 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 5:04pm
So why is the Agco paint the same part number for Persion Orange #1 or #2 ? And nothing I have seen looks anything like the color of the original paint I have now on my 39 B?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ted J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2016 at 10:30am
Because your B is 77 years old.  It, like us, has faded over the years.
Depending on how much time they have sat in the sun, two tractors off the line, one in front of the other, will be different colors now also.
NOTHING looks like the original paint, but now a days, they are close.  I would imagine that the original paint had lead in it.  Now......not in this day and age.
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I am having Sherwin Williams auto paying scan and match the inner part of thr grille, the paint looked pretty good as no sun or grease got to it. I was stunned at the cost of the GC industrial paint, it is top quality but WOW.
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I would not waste any time and money looking for a clean spot of paint on a 1938 B thinking if I could match it perfect it would be the exact color orange this B was when new. Your dreaming.
The accepted PO#1 for a long long time has been what you get when you mixed single stage PPG Omni using the PPG formula #60080. Match a sprayout or a part recently painted with PPG 60080 and be happy Jonny with what you got using what ever paint brand or type that floats your boat and pocket book.
To me the correct color orange is everything anybody sees. In your case match PPG 60080.     Hershal Adams and Vansikle PO#1 come awefull close ready mixed
   

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jonny B 1938 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Aug 2016 at 1:51pm
It scoped out with a Sherwin Williams pre mix color exactly, I bought the GS series single stage and some epoxy primer to go under. I would imagine that the PPG code matches the Sherwin code, either way I smeared a dab on the inside of the grille and it is an exact match. Just a lot shinier gloss of course over the lead base or lacquer they used, not sure what the original base composition was but it sure was tough paint to hold up to 75 years of weather and dirt work.
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You would not believe how transparent most auto paint orange and yellows are. Over different color primers, Example, Red verses Gray, you would swear the finish coats are different colors out of the same can.
   Just as a test spray a clear pane of glass with any AC orange and see how many coats of color it takes to completely block out sunshine.
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isn't that why yer trying to gits edjamcated for Creston?
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I went with a grey base, the pigment is pretty heavy. I tried it on some plexy glass, it covered well with one coat. I am sending a sample to Jet Hot to have my manifold thermal ceramic coated to match inside and out. You can't buy a new one and it will absorb less heat also improving incoming air density. I have the original data tag and manifold in really nice condition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Transaxial Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 2017 at 8:13pm
Lots of good info there Ted. I am repainting a 1979 8550 and have the orange and cream colors from a part # and name from Cloverdale Paints. Enamel and seems to go on pretty nice although it is pretty thin and needs several coats. I am just prepping the cab roof for paint and it appears to be white as opposed to the cast wheel centers that are cream. Is it white because it is faded from 38 years of sun? Or is it supposed to be cream or beige like the wheels? TIA. A picture of my last paint job in November- 1983 8070
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'39 Model B
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What is the correct yellow for the "B" Series L&G Tractors..ie B10..BIG TEN etc.
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What year did they change from Persian 1 to Persian 2?
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What's the paint code for corporate orange?
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anyone know a code for the maroon used on 7000 series? We are having a local paint store mix it up, but would sure make it easier if we had a recipe to ensure it's correct! Thanks!
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