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Older Gleaner Finger Guide Differences

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    Posted: Yesterday at 7:14pm
My CII has what I suspect are aftermarket guides on the pickup and feeder beater fingers, as they don't match the AGCO parts book. Most of the ones in my machine are gone from rats or are too brittle for the rats to be interested in them, so I need to replace all of them.

Has anyone had experience with both styles? Aftermarket would of course be cheaper and the guide and retainer are all combined, but if they're junk, I'll spend the money on the parts for the AGCO style.

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I always used the ones like you pictured.
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You haven't been able to buy the 2 piece for 40 years or more.
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That's interesting to hear. All of the old style parts listed in the C/CII catalog show current pricing and stock available, including the metal retainers. Sounds like I can save some money and use the one piece poly ones.
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My F2 has the plastic ones in platform conveyor. They are kind of fragile. You can squish the hole apart with too much tightening. I use Loctite on threads and snug firmly. I just replaced some this fall. My help was running machine and I was standing on end as she finished the through. SOMETHING DON'T SOUND RIGHT!!! The help never knows something is wrong by the sound. Let's call it inexperience. 2 completely missing on platform with fingers rattling! I usually rub the clutch and roll machine over while looking for guide trouble first of each day but I wasn't driving and can't remember everything to tell everybody.
Plastic ones ain't exactly cheap.


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I'll have to go look at my NOS Gleaner parts. I know there were some of them there at one time. It may be the end of the week before I get out to the barn to look. 
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I thought the rubberish ones used a shoulder bolt to prevent overtightening
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They used both the self tapping and shoulder bolt design. Between the fingers and guides for the header and feeder beater,there were more design changes than Carters got pills.
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That explains it! I thought they were shoulder bolts but these are not. Must have been shoulder bolts on the A2. I've not touched the F2 conveyor as I had dealer put new ones in when I bought it.
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