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Fred 
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 12:56pm |
I'm getting ready to paint my B and want to take off the oil filter and the bracket that it's attached to but don't want to get a bath of oil. Will there be a surprise when I take it off? Not looking for a clean up job on the floor and side of engine. I feel I could do a better job of painting by taking it off.
Thanks for all the help on my other questions as well.
I have trouble finiding the posts after a few days go by. Is there a secret to finding them?
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Murph-NC
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 1:20pm |
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Fred, I'm not sure about the surprise portion of your question. But I know the oil filter base can be a common spot for leaks on the Bs and Cs due to issues with the base warping from overtightening, etc. So if you don't already have a leak there, you may consider leaving it in place while you paint. HTH
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 2:16pm |
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If you do have a leak there just take it off (should be no surprise, maybe a few drips) and run a file carefully over the mating surface to bring it back true. Usually gets warped when someone over tightens it after a leak develops.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 4:38pm |
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I agree. Remove the filter. The filter bracket has a drain hole into the block. If the drain is plugged you may have a small amount of oil in the bracket.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 12:07pm |
The filter mount is pot metal, and not AC's best design. I took it off, cleaned out the recess, ran a mill file over the surface, cut a thin steel plate that matches the face of the mount, filled the recess with JB Weld, and bolted the plate on the bracket to dry. I hate oil leaks, and for two hours of work and very little money you end up with a GREAT gasket surface.
Edited by GBACBFan - 24 Sep 2010 at 12:08pm
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 3:34pm |
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GBACBFan, I'm with you - oil leaks are a real annoyance. I've done a similar repair on one of my tractors with good results. I also ran into a similar situation with my WC - the engine surface to which the side plate bolts was anything but smooth, and mine leaked persistently. I filled several valleys with JB Weld and then bolted the plate back on - end of leak.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2010 at 3:50pm |
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Good idea Larry, I think I might try that on the CA when I get around to an OH. The CA block isn't machined flat so it has always been a problem.
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Fred
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 6:40pm |
I like the fix with the JB Weld and the pictures were great. JB Weld is good stuff! I think I will give it a try. Hope I get as good results as you did. I don't think mine is leaking but I didn't get to know the tractor real well before I got very itimate with it and disassembled it.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 6:45pm |
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GBACBFan, If I read it right the metal stays with the oil filter bracket and is adhered by the JB Weld and the metal is your new gasket surface. Is that correct?
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 6:50pm |
maybe I need to make(more) plate and gasket sets ?
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Posted: 29 Sep 2010 at 7:05pm |
That is absolutely correct, Fred. This is a fun little rainy day project, for not a lot of money. The first one I did (above) had a thin, hand cut steel plate, and the later ones were with a thin aluminum machine cut plate that Bigfish made for me.
With the thin aluminum I bolted a small steel plate on the face as it dried so the aluminum didn't distort, but they work GREAT. A few strokes over the new face with a mill file to make sure it's flush, around the edges to blend the plate in with the housing, and you have a nice gasket surface. Any questions, PM me your phone #, and I'll call you.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:32am |
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Well today it's raining so I started last night so I guess I'll finish it today. Maybe I'll go look for a piece of aluminum. The outside of the bracket where the bolts go I need to address because they show signs of over tightening.... more JB Weld. I'll let you know how I make out.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 12:37pm |
I successfully made the plate out of aluminum and attached it with JB Weld. It looks great and should work fine. Have not tested since I am in ther process of painting.
Thanks for all your help.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 8:02pm |
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When we talked, your idea of cutting a piece out of aluminum angle iron was a good one. Post a pic when you get a chance.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 9:55pm |
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how thick of steel did you use to make the plate. looks pretty thin in the picture,
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Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 10:30pm |
The one in the pic was 1/16" mild steel, if I recall. If you look in the bolt holes it gives a better idea of the thickness. The outer edge looks thin because I shaped it flush with the filter housing. I also made one of pretty thin machine cut aluminum that also worked well. It would be hard to cut a real thin aluminum plate with an angle grinder without distorting it.
For hand cutting with an angle grinder, I think Fred may be on to something using aluminum angle iron. Easier to cut than mild steel, and thick enough to stay flat while cutting with the grinder. I hope he posts a pic.
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