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    Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 10:10pm
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Air Force crew made an odd stop on a routine trip: Trump’s Scottish resort
Now the layover is part of a broader House inquiry into military spending at and around the Trump property.
By NATASHA BERTRAND and BRYAN BENDER 09/06/2019 08:00 PM EDT Updated 09/07/2019 06:01 PM EDT
In early Spring of this year, an Air National Guard crew made a routine trip from the U.S. to Kuwait to deliver supplies.

What wasn’t routine was where the crew stopped along the way: President Donald Trump’s Turnberry resort, about 50 miles outside Glasgow, Scotland.

Since April, the House Oversight Committee has been investigating why the crew on the C-17 military transport plane made the unusual stay — both en route to the Middle East and on the way back — at the luxury waterside resort, according to several people familiar with the incident. But they have yet to receive any answers from the Pentagon.

The inquiry is part of a broader, previously unreported probe into U.S. military expenditures at and around the Trump property in Scotland. According to a letter the panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017, fuel that would be cheaper if purchased at a U.S. military base. The letter also cites a Guardian report that the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.

Taken together, the incidents raise the possibility that the military has helped keep Trump’s Turnberry resort afloat — the property lost $4.5 million in 2017, but revenue went up $3 million in 2018.

“The Defense Department has not produced a single document in this investigation,” said a senior Democratic aide on the oversight panel. “The committee will be forced to consider alternative steps if the Pentagon does not begin complying voluntarily in the coming days.”

On previous trips to the Middle East, the C-17 had landed at U.S. air bases such as Ramstein Air Base in Germany or Naval Station Rota in Spain to refuel, according to one person familiar with the trips. Occasionally the plane stopped in the Azores and once in Sigonella, Italy, both of which have U.S. military sites, the person added.

But on this particular trip, the plane landed in Glasgow — a pitstop the five-man crew had never experienced in their dozens of trips to the Middle East. The location lacked a U.S. base and was dozens of miles away from the crew’s overnight lodging at the Turnberry resort.

Had the crew needed to make a stop in the U.K., Lakenheath Air Base is situated nearby in England. The layover might have been cheaper, too: the military gets billed at a higher rate for fuel at commercial airports.

One crew member was so struck by the choice of hotel — markedly different than the Marriotts and Hiltons the 176th maintenance squadron is used to — that he texted someone close to him and told him about the stay, sending a photo and noting that the crew’s per diem allowance wasn’t enough to cover food and drinks at the ritzy resort.

The revelation that an Air Force mission may have helped line the president’s pockets comes days after Vice President Mike Pence was pressed about his decision to stay at Trump’s property in Doonbeg, Ireland, despite its location hundreds of miles away from his meetings in Dublin. The Oversight Committee is also investigating Pence’s stay at the resort.

Following publication of this story, the Air Force said in a statement Saturday that the C-17 stopover was “not unusual” but acknowledged the service is still investigating the Air Force operations and spending in Scotland.

“Every two and half minutes an Air Force transport aircraft takes off or lands somewhere around the globe. As our aircrews serve on these international airlift missions, they follow strict guidelines on contracting for hotel accommodations and all expenditures of taxpayer dollars,” Brig. Gen. Ed Thomas said in the statement. “In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews’ allowable hotel rates. While we are still reviewing the trip records, we have found nothing that falls outside the guidelines associated with selecting stopover airports on travel routes and hotel accommodations for crew rest.”

The Air Force confirmed that seven crew members stayed at Turnberry en route to Kuwait, but said “it did not appear” that they stayed at the hotel on the way back. There are more than two dozen hotels in and around Prestwick, but the Air Force said Trump Turnberry was the cheapest option available at the time and below the per diem allowance. POLITICO could not independently verify the room rates cited by the Air Force.

The Pentagon has yet to respond publicly to the broader questions posed by the House oversight panel in its detailed letter to then-Acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan in June. A spokesman told POLITICO Saturday that it will take some time to respond to the broader allegations.

Accusations that Trump’s properties are unfairly profiting off of his administration have dogged the president since entering office. Ethics officials and lawmakers have raised concerns about foreign officials staying at Trump hotels, and noted that Trump supporters and industry groups regularly throw bashes at Trump-owned locations. Trump is also considering hosting next year’s Group of Seven gathering of world leaders at his Doral resort in Florida, a potential financial boon for the property, and has previously stayed at the Turnberry property.

But the potential involvement of the military takes the issue to a different level.

A senior Air Force official who was previously stationed at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska — where the C-17 crew was based — said choosing to refuel in Glasgow and stay at a posh property a half hour away would be unusual for such a mission. Typically, the official said, air crews stay on a military base while in transit or at nearby lodgings “unless all the hotels are booked or there is a Scottish sheep festival going on.”

The official, who was not aware of the specific allegations, also said that the mid-level officers or senior enlisted airmen commonly responsible for identifying lodging for the personnel are notoriously frugal and try to stay where their government allowance covers the costs.

“Master sergeants are cheap,” he said.

Several weeks after being alerted to the curious overnight stop, the Oversight Committee wrote a letter to acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan asking for documents related to Defense Department expenditures at Trump Turnberry and the nearby Glasgow Prestwick Airport.

The letter, signed by signed by House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), notes that U.S. military expenditures at the airport “appear to have increased substantially since the election.”

Prestwick Airport has long been debt-ridden. The Scottish government bought it in 2013 for £1, but it has continued to lose money in the years since. In June, the government announced its intent to sell the airport, which the panel’s letter described as “integral” to the success of the Turnberry property, 30 miles away.

Because of that, the lawmakers argued that the spending at the airport — in addition to the spending at the Trump property — raises concerns about conflicts of interest and possible violations of the domestic emoluments clause of the Constitution, which prohibits the president from receiving any compensation from the federal government other than his salary. After being elected, Trump chose not to fully divest himself from his business interests, choosing instead to put his holdings in a trust that he can receive money from at any time.

The letter asks the Pentagon for all communications between the Defense and State Departments related to “per diem” allowances in Scotland, as well as “all pre-audit flags related to air crew travel” through the Prestwick Airport and Turnberry resort, “or travel allowances beyond the normal allocations in the Defense Travel System.”
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And this was On the morning News where the Pentagon notified News services this is NOT a event, occurs frequent enough in normal time and has for YEARS.
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Because its Trump "let's find out what's goin' on". "He's secretly meeting with the Russian's"!   Like in the 8 years O'Bummer was in, he and his cohort Holder didn't do anything sneaky either.  Like Lou says: give it a rest. Your information as always comes from unreliable sources.... Politico  sheesh! Might as well be from the Huffer-bag or CNN...
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The military staying in Trump’s hotel is not something that has been happening for years!!
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trammy did you ask the same question about Michelle Obama taking her mother and kids to china so they could walk the get wall. I believe they said it cost taxpayers 10 million dollars or is this just a trump thing with you.
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Following publication of this story, the Air Force said in a statement Saturday that the C-17 stopover was “not unusual” but acknowledged the service is still investigating the Air Force operations and spending in Scotland.

Every two and half minutes an Air Force transport aircraft takes off or lands somewhere around the globe. As our aircrews serve on these international airlift missions, they follow strict guidelines on contracting for hotel accommodations and all expenditures of taxpayer dollars,” Brig. Gen. Ed Thomas said in the statement. “In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews’ allowable hotel rates. While we are still reviewing the trip records, we have found nothing that falls outside the guidelines associated with selecting stopover airports on travel routes and hotel accommodations for crew rest.”
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

The military staying in Trump’s hotel is not something that has been happening for years!!
You are soooo full of crap

Air Force Completely Destroys Media Narrative About Crew Favoring Trump's Scottish Hotel

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Posted: Sep 09, 2019 7:30 AM

Any time a government or military official stays at a Trump-owned hotel, get ready for the media and Democratic politicians to completely meltdown—regardless of the circumstances.

While last week was dominated by criticism of Vice President Mike Pence staying at a Trump property in Ireland, this weekend, all eyes turned to reports that an Air National Guard crew stopped at Trump’s Turnberry resort in Scotland on their way to bringing medical supplies to Kuwait.

The Politico report argues that crews on previous trips to the Middle East have stopped at U.S. air bases in other countries where refueling would cost less than at a commercial airport.

According to a letter the panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017, fuel that would be cheaper if purchased at a U.S. military base. The letter also cites a Guardian report that the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.

Taken together, the incidents raise the possibility that the military has helped keep Trump’s Turnberry resort afloat — the property lost $4.5 million in 2017, but revenue went up $3 million in 2018. […]

On previous trips to the Middle East, the C-17 had landed at U.S. air bases such as Ramstein Air Base in Germany or Naval Station Rota in Spain to refuel, according to one person familiar with the trips. Occasionally the plane stopped in the Azores and once in Sigonella, Italy, both of which have U.S. military sites, the person added. (Politico)

It didn’t take long for the Air Force to respond to the story, completely disputing accusations that "an Air Force mission may have helped line the president’s pockets."

Military flights making stopovers in Scotland are not unusual, and there were no rooms closer to the airport, an Air Force spokesman said Saturday in an emailed statement to The Associated Press.

“As our aircrews serve on these international airlift missions, they follow strict guidelines on contracting for hotel accommodations and all expenditures of taxpayer dollars,” Brig Gen Edward Thomas wrote. “In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews’ allowable hotel rates.” [...]

A local government contractor made the Scotland reservations, and indicated there was not a room closer to the airport than the Trump resort, 54 miles away, Thomas said.

That, Thomas said, was not a remarkable distance to travel to receive the government rate for the rooms.

He said the Trump resort had rooms for $136 a night, cheaper than a Marriott, which charged $161 a night. However, he said both are under the per diem rate of $166.

“While we are still reviewing the trip records, we have found nothing that falls outside the guidelines associated with selecting stopover airports on travel routes and hotel accommodations for crew rest,” said Thomas, the director of Air Force Public Affairs.

He said records are being reviewed, but it appears the crew stayed at a Marriott near Glasgow on its return trip to Alaska. (AP)

Now that their every move is being criticized, the Air Force is going to be reviewing their travel and lodging selections for international trips.

“U.S. Service members lodging at resort accommodations, even if within government rates, might be allowable but not advisable,” said Edwards, reports WSJ. “We are not only stewards of American tax dollars but we represent our nation as we travel abroad.”


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And well before Trump was ever president the US Air Force has stopped at that airport well over a hundred times in a year and has stayed at the Trump hotel many many times. Again Trammy you are sooo full of crap!


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Air Force defends Scotland stopover, Trump’s hotel was cheapest

September 8, 2019 | Vivek Saxena

The Air Force has been forced to defend itself from accusations by congressional Democrats and their partisan media allies that a decision last March by an Air Force squadron to stay the night at a Trump resort during a stopover in Scotland reeks of corruption.

“The stopover of a U.S. Air Force C-17 in Glasgow, Scotland is not unusual,” Air Force spokesperson Brig. Gen. Ed Thomas said in a statement on Saturday to the Associated Press.  “Every two and half minutes an Air Force transport aircraft takes off or lands somewhere around the globe. As our aircrews serve on these international airlift missions, they follow strict guidelines on contracting for hotel accommodations and all expenditures of taxpayer dollars.”

For the stopover in March, he continued, the squadron chose the Trump Turnberry resort to save money.

In this case, they made reservations through the Defense Travel System and used the closest available and least expensive accommodations to the airfield within the crews’ allowable hotel rates,” Thomas explained.

His remarks were prompted after Democrats and the media began complaining about this and other stays:

BREAKING: House Oversight is investigating whether US military expenditures have been propping up Trump Turnberry. A peculiar refueling stop in Glasgow by a US Air Force crew, who stayed overnight at the resort—there & back—tipped them off. Our exclusive: https://t.co/oRkatAAnFs

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) September 7, 2019

“In early Spring of this year, an Air National Guard crew made a routine trip from the U.S. to Kuwait to deliver supplies,” Politico, which broke the story on Friday, reported. “What wasn’t routine was where the crew stopped along the way: President Donald Trump’s Turnberry resort, about 50 miles outside Glasgow, Scotland.”

The report continued by noting that, led by anti-Trump zealot Rep. Jerry Nadler, the House Oversight Committee has been investigating the stopover since April.

“The inquiry is part of a broader, previously unreported probe into U.S. military expenditures at and around the Trump property in Scotland,” the report reads. “According to a letter the panel sent to the Pentagon in June, the military has spent $11 million on fuel at the Prestwick Airport — the closest airport to Trump Turnberry — since October 2017, fuel that would be cheaper if purchased at a U.S. military base. The letter also cites a Guardian report that the airport provided cut-rate rooms and free rounds of golf at Turnberry for U.S. military members.”

Congressional Democrats believe that the Trump administration is purposefully putting money into the airport’s hands to boost its profile and thus increase travel to the general region. Why would the president do that? To allegedly boost his resort and stop alleged ongoing “financial losses,” according to Democrats.

“Given the President’s continued financial stake in his Scotland golf courses, these reports raise questions about the President’s potential receipt of U.S. or foreign government emoluments in violation of the U.S. Constitution and raise other serious conflict of interest concerns,” their letter on the matter reads. “In order to fulfill its responsibilities under the Constitution, the Committee is seeking information related to expenditures at both Prestwick Airport and the Presidents’ nearby Scotland golf resorts.”

In a statement given to The Hill on Friday, an unnamed senior Democrat aide claimed that the administration has thus far not complied with the committee’s requests.

“The Defense Department has not produced a single document in this investigation,” the aide said. “The committee will be forced to consider alternative steps if the Pentagon does not begin complying voluntarily in the coming days.”

Congressional Democrats have displayed similar fervor in their newfound investigation against Vice President Mike Pence, who briefly stayed at a Trump hotel during his recent trip to Ireland.

Flanked by his wife, mother and sister, Pence briefly stayed at the Trump International Golf Links & Hotel in Doonbeg because Doonbeg also happens to be his family’s hometown.

“I mean, it’s deeply humbling for me to be able to come back to Ireland and have the opportunity to go to the very hometown of my mother’s grandmother,” he explained to reporters while still in Ireland last week.

“I mean, we’ll have dinner tonight at a little pub that I worked at when I was 22 years old, when I came over here shortly after my grandfather passed away,” he continued. “And right across the street is the house where my great-grandmother grew up. She often spoke of the castle that was out the window of her bedroom.”

Regarding his stay specifically at the president’s hotel, Pence noted that it made sense logically.

“I understand political attacks by Democrats, but if you have a chance to get to Doonbeg, you’ll find it’s a fairly small place, and the opportunity to stay at Trump National in Doonbeg, to accommodate the unique footprint that comes with our security detail and other personnel, made it logical,” he said.

While his explanation does appear to make logical sense — as does the Air Force’s argument that the C-17 squadron had stayed at Trump’s resort in Scotland to save money — the logic is seemingly being completely ignored by both Democrats and their partisan media allies.

“Pence Is Staying in Doonbeg so Trump Can Turn a Profit on His Ireland Trip,” one stunningly hyperbolic and conspiratorial headline from Vanity Fair magazine reads.

That is straight-up fake news, i.e., the exact sort of fake news that the media routinely disseminate, all as they scratch their heads in confusion at why so many Americans distrust them.

As for Democrats, they continue to complain and tout conspiracy theories:

.@VP Pence’s taxpayer-funded stay at @realDonaldTrump’s Ireland golf resort is just another example of this admin’s open corruption & how it enriches the President. I want the @StateDept to explain who planned this trip & its cost to the American people. https://t.co/h4a0NwVivV

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) September 6, 2019

VP Pence’s focus should be on strengthening the U.S.-Ireland alliance, not illegally lining President Trump’s pockets with taxpayers dollars. That’s why the framers of the Constitution wrote the #Emoluments clauses and precisely what they were trying to prevent. https://t.co/2wZ9UfuKru

— House Foreign Affairs Committee (@HouseForeign) September 3, 2019

Dear Secretary of Defense @EsperDoD: This smells like corruption.

Can you explain to the American people why US military personnel apparently went out of their way to fly to a @realDonaldTrump resort? https://t.co/D8aCBQggwA

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) September 7, 2019


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And Scotland had meet with the Trump Organization back in 2014 to sign a deal for Trump to provide Turnberry as a hotel resort to serve that airport well before Trump was considered as a serious candidate aaaannnnddddd NATO had been using that airport for many many years before. Who is by far the biggest part of NATO? Answer, The United State Military so yes the US military had been using that airport for years and Turnberry was cheaper than any other hotel available in the area aaaannnnddd it doesn't matter what your "facts" say Dimmy.

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“And well before Trump was ever president the US Air Force has stopped at that airport well over a hundred times in a year and has stayed at the Trump hotel many many times. Again Trammy you are sooo full of crap!”


From ‘The Week’:

“The U.S. Air Force said it has been using Prestwick Airport, Glasgow's struggling secondary airport, for refueling since 2015, but Politico notes that the frequency of those stopovers has tripled since then and overnights have increased more than fivefold, from 40 overnights in 2015 to 208 in 2018 and 220 this year through August. Prestwick is the closest airport to Turnberry, about 20 miles away. Lt. Gen. Jon Thomas, deputy head of Air Mobility Command, which oversees all Air Force travel worldwide, told Politico he couldn't report how many of the 659 total overnights may have been at Trump's resort.”
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

The military staying in Trump’s hotel is not something that has been happening for years!!

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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

The military staying in Trump’s hotel is not something that has been happening for years!!


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If you sign a DEAL in 2014, and the flights  "START" in 2015.... I would think you would INCREASE the activity over a period of several years.. Not abnormal that you would START with 40 flights per year and 4 years later be at 200........... ANY business works like that... Look at manufacturing and how they RAMP UP production over a period of time... VERY NORMAL...
 
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“And well before Trump was ever president the US Air Force has stopped at that airport well over a hundred times in a year and has stayed at the Trump hotel many many times. Again Trammy you are sooo full of crap!”


From ‘The Week’:

“The U.S. Air Force said it has been using Prestwick Airport, Glasgow's struggling secondary airport, for refueling since 2015, but Politico notes that the frequency of those stopovers has tripled since then and overnights have increased more than fivefold, from 40 overnights in 2015 to 208 in 2018 and 220 this year through August. Prestwick is the closest airport to Turnberry, about 20 miles away. Lt. Gen. Jon Thomas, deputy head of Air Mobility Command, which oversees all Air Force travel worldwide, told Politico he couldn't report how many of the 659 total overnights may have been at Trump's resort.”
You repeat what I posted? What's your point small one?
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“....the frequency of those stopovers has tripled since then and overnights have increased more than fivefold, from 40 overnights in 2015 to 208 in 2018 and 220 this year through August. ”

Not normal, that’s the point.

And Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut business.   Not just give it to a member of his family...had to completely sell it.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:



And Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut business.   Not just give it to a member of his family...had to completely sell it.
TRANNYVESTITE I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO GET YOU SOME MAXIPADS AND SOME TAMPONS!!!
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“Every two and half minutes an Air Force transport aircraft takes off or lands somewhere around the globe"...

man that's a LOT of fuel..
got me thinking about some federal airport that was built preTrump that NO ONE uses ,maybe in Ohio or Virginia ? Heck it was awhile ago....one of those 'pork' things I suppose ?

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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“....the frequency of those stopovers has tripled since then and overnights have increased more than fivefold, from 40 overnights in 2015 to 208 in 2018 and 220 this year through August. ”

Not normal, that’s the point.

And Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut business.   Not just give it to a member of his family...had to completely sell it.
That quote is from Politico. Consider the source of that particular quote. By Natasha Bertrand none the less! Who has had one story after another debunked time and again. FAKE NEWS!

Watch this video starting at 26:18 where Bongino talks about how many times a year the Air Force has used that airport in Scotland...... for instance in 2015 they landed there 95 times and in 2016, 145 times. Those landing increasesd by over 50% under Obama. Why no questioning it then? What do you think has been causing our more frequent use of that airport in recent years? Why under Trump has it risen even more? In fact the Air Force has increased it's travels to all of Europe in this time period.... especially under Trump? Why is that? Can you think? I'm betting you can't put the dots together at all.

Oh and Jimmy Carter was an idiot, a well intentioned idiot perhaps but an idiot just the same.


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