Newbie needing some info.what model Allis is this?

Hey Folks. I just joined up today hoping yall can give me some direction on restoring my first Allis Chalmers tractor. Im still trying to determine what model it is, from looking at other pictures im guessing it is a model B or C. This tractor belonged to my grandad and he was the last person to use it which as been about 15 years ago. To my knowledge there was no issues with it as it has been parked in the barn and out of the weather ever since. I remember him turning a crank on the front to fire it up but i havent found the crank yet so im not sure if it will still run or not . I plan on airing up the tires and bringing it over to my garage this weekend to get started on it. Any advice, tips,direction or constuctive criticism is much appreciated. 

A few things you might want to consider; but first remember it's your tractor & you have every right in the world to do whatever you want to with it. Since it was your grandfather's tractor, there are 2 schools of thought. One is to restore it back to the condition it was when he first bought it. The other is to leave it exactly as he left it (after getting it repaired to the point of running well), especially if it has good original paint & decals on it. I can't tell, but if that's an original Allis oil filter, take it off, clean it up & put it on a shelf because there aren't a lot of those around (I don't think). Good luck!

Welcome to the forum.  You've got your Grandad's B, also with cultivators it looks like.  I'll let some of the experts give you the rundown on what to do first... they helped me too.  As I have a B that had set about 15 years also.

Welcome to the forum
"I remember him turning a crank on the front
to fire it up but i havent found the crank yet"
hear is a site that show you a crank
and Magneto ,Ignition ,timing

http://www.worldpath.net/~thompson/
Hand Crank Drawing
Magneto Ignition Timing - Step-by-Step
hth  it should get you started
we can`t have Mr. Bill long favorite
not working wright
if you need more help just ask .
B:-)     Dnoym

Rockytop, If I were you , I would pull the plugs out and add a squirt or 3 of oil in each cylinder. Then try rocking the tractor with the back wheels while in 3rd gear. if it rocks, it should roll over. If it rolls over it might not take much to get her running.

Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 08 Sep 2010 at 8:15pm

It sure looks like a taller seat frame. Foot brakes?

Welcome aboard Rockytop! You have found the best site on the planet, maybe the universe! I see you say that your grandad used to hand-crank it. Maybe he was like my grandad and too "frugal" to buy a new one. I definitely see lights and a battery box. I think I see a starter on the right side there also. They can be started with a small 12 volt battery, but MAKE SURE THAT YOU DISCONNECT ALL OTHER WIRING TO THE LIGHTS AND GENERATOR, 12 VOLTS WILL FRY THE GENNY, CUTOUT, BLOW THE BULBS IN THE LIGHTS(if they're not already goners), and make a mess of a 6 volt system. I have a C. I took all of the rotten wiring off, got a new ground and positive battery cable with new ends, and put those on with no other wiring. Clean all of your connections very well and make sure they are tight. Remove the starter from the engine and clean the outside of the starter snout with sandpaper til it's bare metal. Do the same with the inside of the engine where it bolts up. Take out the bolt and clean it too. Put it back together and see if it will turn over(after you have rocked it or pulled it around to make sure it's free). If the starter doesn't work, or sparks, arcing is occurring around the starter, take it to a starter/alternator shop. They can rebuild it. If you feel confident tearing into the starter, there are plenty here who can help you troubleshoot it and get it going. Mine just needed a good cleaning and the drive spring replaced. Now it works fine. These old tractors are simple as mud, and tougher than an anvil. They will run nearly forever with a little periodic TLC. Sorry for the long-winded post. Glad to have you on here, and look forward to seeing some progress pics.

Welcome, and I'll secind basicaly what everyone else said.  Looks like about a 40 B to me.  I don't see hand brakes, and can't tell if the front rims are riveted, or have bolts.

look like you have a

1943	6451
1944	65502

1938: 97
1939: 11800
1940: 33502
1941: 49721
1942: 56782
1943: 64501
1944: 65502
1945: 70210
1946: 72265
1947: 73370
1948: 80556
1949: 92295
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-
tractors/000/0/0/3-allis-chalmers-b.html

B:-)  Dnoym

Went back to look at the pic again. Did not see the seat. If he was like my grandad, he took it off and put it somewhere that it wouldn't get wet or damaged. You might look around. It will look like a little mattress with steel springs inside, could be covered with anything from the original green colored canvas to any sort of fabric they could find.

Hope you got to spend some time on it with your grandad. I have a lot of good memories of mine. Take it slow with getting it going. That's the best way to do it right IMO. Also makes the quality time more enjoyable, and getting it going and knowing it was done right.