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    Posted: 11 May 2011 at 10:44pm
I was surfing Ebay tonight and saw several new Allis riding mowers for sale. I was wondering who is making them now.I mean are does anyone know if they are built by AYP or MTD or who?
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They are the same machine as a snapper.
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Which is owned by Briggs and Stratton, who bought Simplicity which was once owned by AC.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BStone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2011 at 5:52am
So there built by Briggs @ Stratton??? And Briggs @Stratton builds snapper also?
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Briggs & Stratton owns Simplicity, Snapper and a few other brand names. I don't think the AC tractors were offered to the Simplicity Dealers but i'm not sure.
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I M O not even close to the quality of the old simplicity
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They are built at the old snapper plant in McDough, Ga.  Simplicity bought Snapper then a year later sold to Briggs, Briggs then bought Murry, the new AC mowers are a Simplicity frame with a Murry deck.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnCO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2011 at 11:55am
I sure wish they would build a good ZTR Allis mower.  I see they have 4 wheel steer but I think the ZTR's are much better with fewer parts and things to wear out.
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Got a newer snapper ZTR mower in  the scrap pile. not that old but already one hydraulic final drive has went out. Over 6 hundred dollars to replace. Took the engine off and mounted it onto my ZTR Scagg. I like something with some gears. 
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Bought a 60" Swisher ZTR last year and love it, solid machine and cuts well and has cut my mowing time in half from using the New Holland S16 I have with 54" deck.
 Murry 18 HP with 46" deck I parted out and used engine in D-Allis 616 Hydro I sold .
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didnt know simplicity was made by briggs mine is a kohler. if briggs owned the company wouldnt
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That Simplicity must have been built before B&S bought them out.
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Snapper got in a bind, simplicity bought them. Simplicity got in a bind and the Briggs & Stratton Group bought them. Briggs & Stratton is just the "owner". The machines are still built in GA by Snapper. IMHO, they are still well built machines. Briggs & Stratton was wise not to use their engines on the Snapper's and Simplicity's.

I have a Snapper 2007 350Z ZTR. It has septate HydroGear pumps and motors for each wheel, Kohler engine (optional Kawasaki), and heavy frame/deck. It weighs in at about 700 lbs and it is only a 44" mower. I'd call it a light commercial duty machine. There is not a metric fastener on it and it uses heavy SAE washers throughout. Too bad they discontinued this line and went to HydroGear trans-axles to save money. 

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Originally posted by dave63 dave63 wrote:

Briggs & Stratton owns Simplicity, Snapper and a few other brand names. I don't think the AC tractors were offered to the Simplicity Dealers but i'm not sure.
Dave, the new AC-130 lawn tractors were offered to both Simplicity and Snapper dealers.
Dealers I have talked to that have decided to sell them say they are selling  good.
Even know of one dealer who said he did not want to bother with them is selling them now.
Briggs & Stratton has not really pushed these machines from what I can tell. They are pretty much selling themselves.

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If they got large frame modles with a 60" heavier deck,  I would considder one
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Our local agco dealer is selling them. They look preaty cool!
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our local agco dealer used to sell them but then they closed when it changed to massy this year.
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