Need more hydraulics 170 allis

Hi all
I’m using to no good again and need some advice I have a 170 allis with factory 3 pt and 3 levers for the hydraulics by the fender side by side
Here’s the issue
I have a fully hydraulic loader on the front and it uses all the remotes outlets out the back there are 4
I am making a 3 pt forklift for moving logs and need 4 more out let’s
The fork lift uses one for the lift ram and one for the top link to rock it forward or back
I’m wanting to add a ram for a homade grapple to hold the logs on the forks during transport from the woods to the trailer
How would you all go about accomplishing the task at hand most effectively and inexpensively ?

put a joystick on for the loader with power beyond - search old posts lots of info...this will free up the rear 2 outlets (4 hoses)

I done as Mack said on my 180, as long as you have room you can add as many valves as you want

SteveMaskey that is pretty neat !!   One problem on a 170 or D-17 S4 would be the seat will probably not allow the extra valves.  To me a joystick/power beyond valve would be the best.

Hi all just playing with my 170 and reading old posts

To the gentleman that said you broke connection of steel line and feed extra valve you bought from northern tool
Is that safe to do so it won't wreck factory Allis spool valves
And book says tractors making around 2100 psi at 10 gpm

I found a valve through Nebraska super center store for under 200 dollars delivers that's open center and rated at 10 gpm
I'm going out today to check if a 170 has the split like your 180 did to try and do what you did to feed a loader valve and free up my back remotes for snow blower

Along these line of questioning.... why do some loader combinations that use old two lever spool only need two hoses going the remote valves in the back and some require 4 hoses and two remote connections. Is it the type of hydraulic system on the tractor or are you giving up flow with one versus the other? Reason I ask we have old David Brown with a loader that uses a 2 lever spool with one set of hoses going to the back and then we bought a 170 with a loader set up like the OP describes with two sets of hoses and plumbed into the console levers. Can one add an older 2 lever spool off the loader like the David Brown and then have one set of remotes open at the back or will this be a serious sacrifice of flow?

no its fully hydraulic loader..one lever controls whole loader up and down and other lever controls bucket tilt.....bought the tractor new in 74 with the loader on it, just curious if using a similar two lever spool mounted off the loader and plumbing into 1 set of remotes on the 170 would work and if so what's the difference ?

Thought a picture would help

ranger43 wrote: no its fully hydraulic loader..one lever controls whole loader up and down and other lever controls bucket tilt.....bought the tractor new in 74 with the loader on it, just curious if using a similar two lever spool mounted off the loader and plumbing into 1 set of remotes on the 170 would work and if so what's the difference ?

Could do that as well but with one Remote essentially locked in while using the other remote has no feed.

If you plumb like the diagram I posted, Every thing will work as before. Only the return uses a tee. The pressure and power beyond is separated. It does not matter if you split the pressure at the front or at the valve. Splitting at the front means shorter lines are needed.

Sounds correct