need advice on re-mounting a B rear rim

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Needing guidance for my 92 year old father in law... he was mowing with his B on a side slope and the rear rim came off the mounts.  He is OK but has become frustrated trying to get the rim back on the hub mounts.  ANY IDEAS OR IS THERE A STEP-BY-STEP FOR THIS ?
He is three hours away from me and I cannot get over there until next week.  

Here's his email to me this from this a.m.

"HEY SON, WELL THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY THINGS I GIVE UP ON IN MY LIFE.  BUT THIS ALLIS RIM AND TIRE HAVE GOTTEN ME BEAT.  I HAVE HAD THE RIM AND TIRE ALMOSTED BOLTED DOWN 5 TIMES TODAY AND THEN IT ALL COMES APART AGAIN.  I AM GONNA TRY TO DO IT ONE MORE TIME IN THE MORNING AND IF I CANNOT GET IT BOLTED DOWN I AM GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME HELP.  I MEAN SOME INTELLIGENCE WITH WHAT I AM DOING WRONG.  JUST AS I START TO TIGHTEN THE LUG NUTS UP IT SUMP OFF THE RIM LUGS NUTS AGAIN.  I SPENT 9 HOURS ON THAT THING TODAY AND I AM JUST GIVE OUT.  GOT ANY IDEAS ?  WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?  DO YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO KEEP THE RIM IN PLACE WHILE I AM TIGHTENING THE BOLTS?

I ALSO BLEW OUT AN O RING ON MY FLOOR JACK.  SPENT 2 HOURS  GETTING THAT FIXED.  AM A LITTLE DISCOURAGED WORKING ON THAT LITLE TRACTOR SO LONG WIHTOUT ANY PROGRESS.

WE GOT A LITTLE RAIN TODAY AND IT IS SUPPOSED TO RAIN THE REST OF THE WEEK.  THAT GRASS WILL START GROWING AND I NEED MY ALLIS IN WORKING ORDER.  I MAY HAVE TO USE THE LITTLE LAWNMOWER IF PUSH COMES TO SHOUVE.  LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT I AM DOING WRONG.  THANKS, PAW.

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Edited by cdon_FL - 16 May 2018 at 9:44am

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cdon_FL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 15 Aug 2016 Location: NE Florida Points: 116	Post Options Post Reply Quote cdon_FL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: need advice on re-mounting a B rear rim Posted: 16 May 2018 at 9:32am
	Needing guidance for my 92 year old father in law... he was mowing with his B on a side slope and the rear rim came off the mounts. He is OK but has become frustrated trying to get the rim back on the hub mounts. ANY IDEAS OR IS THERE A STEP-BY-STEP FOR THIS ? He is three hours away from me and I cannot get over there until next week. Here's his email to me this from this a.m. "HEY SON, WELL THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY THINGS I GIVE UP ON IN MY LIFE. BUT THIS ALLIS RIM AND TIRE HAVE GOTTEN ME BEAT. I HAVE HAD THE RIM AND TIRE ALMOSTED BOLTED DOWN 5 TIMES TODAY AND THEN IT ALL COMES APART AGAIN. I AM GONNA TRY TO DO IT ONE MORE TIME IN THE MORNING AND IF I CANNOT GET IT BOLTED DOWN I AM GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME HELP. I MEAN SOME INTELLIGENCE WITH WHAT I AM DOING WRONG. JUST AS I START TO TIGHTEN THE LUG NUTS UP IT SUMP OFF THE RIM LUGS NUTS AGAIN. I SPENT 9 HOURS ON THAT THING TODAY AND I AM JUST GIVE OUT. GOT ANY IDEAS ? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO KEEP THE RIM IN PLACE WHILE I AM TIGHTENING THE BOLTS? I ALSO BLEW OUT AN O RING ON MY FLOOR JACK. SPENT 2 HOURS GETTING THAT FIXED. AM A LITTLE DISCOURAGED WORKING ON THAT LITLE TRACTOR SO LONG WIHTOUT ANY PROGRESS. WE GOT A LITTLE RAIN TODAY AND IT IS SUPPOSED TO RAIN THE REST OF THE WEEK. THAT GRASS WILL START GROWING AND I NEED MY ALLIS IN WORKING ORDER. I MAY HAVE TO USE THE LITTLE LAWNMOWER IF PUSH COMES TO SHOUVE. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT I AM DOING WRONG. THANKS, PAW. uploads/15923/ALLIS_B_REAR_WHEEL_1.jpg Edited by cdon_FL - 16 May 2018 at 9:44am
	Chris in NE Florida

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CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3783	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 9:50am
	eccentric bolts worn and not holding?
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

Gerald J. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerald J. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 10:02am
	Should be covered in the operator's manual which I don't have but may be over on: http://grandpas-tractor-site.s3.amazonaws.com/manuals/ac Might be mentioned in the shop manual: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Maybe the military IB manual covers the same type of rear rim mounting on page 48: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/BMilitary.pdf Gerald J.

Dakota Dave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3921	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dakota Dave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 10:27am
	Tighten the two non eccentric wedges. One of them must be in the drive lug. The lug that has stops welded on both ends. Put that one on the top and jack the tractor up so the rim is hanging on that wedge. The two ecctrentics should be loosely installed with the long arm of the cross on the head pointed towards the center of the wheel. Align them with the lugs while the tire and rim are hanging in the air. Once all four lugs Are in the wedges tighten the two eccentric bolts by turning till the long arm of the cross points directly at the rim. Finally tighten the nuts on all four bolts. If the rim isn't tight enough you can cut a soup can and shim between the eccentric wedges and the rim. You abosoutly can't shim the drive lug one the rim will fall off. If you put and eccentric on the drive lug it will fall off. What ever you doo make sure the tractor is well blocked before working on it.

wbecker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Location: STL Points: 837	Post Options Post Reply Quote wbecker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 11:56am
	Looks like someone has welded a shim on the drive lug.
	Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152

tadams(OH) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 9978	Post Options Post Reply Quote tadams(OH) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 3:56pm
	Sounds like they are too worn to hold and need replaced.

bradley6874 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: salisbury md Points: 1344	Post Options Post Reply Quote bradley6874 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 5:31pm
	Where is your father-in-law at may be somebody is close enough to help at 92 he doesn't need to be wrestling with a tractor tire please we don't want a bad ending here
	You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 79872	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2018 at 9:52pm
	Dave has it right... Put one of the NON ADJUSTABLE wedges on the hub and set at the TOP... then roll the tire over to the tractor and position it on the hub, with the two STOPS on the rim around the top WEDGE... I use a floor jack to raise and lower the tractor an inch so I NEVER pickup the tire myself..... just roll it over the hub and then jackup the tractor........... once the tire and rim and hanging on the hub, put the other 3 clamps on the hub... you FIXED wedge is at 12 oclock.. put the other at 3 oclock.. Two of the wedges have eccentric bolts so they run off a cam... put them at 6 and 9 oclock.. Rotate the bolt heads on the 6 and 9 oclock clamps so they swivel OUT on the cam and tighten the rim... hold in place and tighten the nuts......... if they spin all the way around, they are worn out.... then use a shim as the guys said, or weld a couple beads on the inside of the clamp to get it tighter when you rotate the cam bolt.
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.