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My new toy, 1949 C "Frank"

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Hi all,
I've been meaning to post my newest addition to my collection since last weekend when we hauled him home, and I suppose the new forum is as good a place as any!
 
He's a 1949 C we've named Frank because as you will so in the pics (once I figgure out that in the new forum) that the guy that I bought it from's grandpa (was his tractor) painted it at one point, and must have been so proud of it he stencled his own name on the hood instead of Allis Chalmers, LOL!  That and I already have a 1948 C so we needed a name to differenciate them.  Now there is "Lil' Allis" and "Frank".
 
Anyway, for a $500 tractor, he needs some tlc, but he runs (kinda).
The ring gear is shot, so using the starter is basically out of the question (unless you use the hand crank to turn it over to just the right spot) That, and the starter button on the starter is gone, so you have to pull the old redneck jumper cable zap method.  He he...
 
Or just push start it we found is really easy with a couple of people (video to follow once I figgure it out)
But he likes to die once runing, so we'll have to take off his carb and clean and inspect it.
 
His breaks need work, rediator flushed, oil changed throughout, and an entirely new electrical system (he has no electrical box or battery box, there missing).
 
Engine may be tired, I think that he was worked hard in a past life, and didnt get the maintanence he disserved.  sad.
 
I also got a truck load of misc parts for $100.  B parts, a grill, manefold and carb, front wishbone axel, radiator (full of mice nests) with front shutters (minus little hand crank), the original C gas tank (full of mice nests) that the PO's grandpa rolled the tractor and dented in. couple of hand cranks, 2 tool boxes (one for Fank and a spare for a non electric B),  PTO pulley, PTO guard, Ross stering box, and some other misc stuff.
And part of the deal was he has a spare engine block with a mag on it that I will get eventually once he picks it up (it was at the other end of the state).
 
I don't think I did too bad, Huh?
 
I'll have lots of questions as time goes on, but being 10 hours away from Frank really puts a halt to progress.  He's back home in Ashland WI, and I'm moved out to Kenmare ND
 
Hopefully pics to follow...
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Here Frank is in Ashland just before we spent most of the day Sunday wrencing on hom to get him running, rolling and stopping better before bringing him to meet  the other Allis's
And yes, I realise his right rear tire is on backwords! LOL, we didn't even notice that until we got him home....

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Just a couple more pics and a video...
Here are the parts I got.
And the lack of electrical...
And the video once we got him to the woods...

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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

lot of spare angle iron underneith!  I like the horse shoe step.
Ya, the PO fabed up a "3 point" kind of monstrosity....  It will all be coming off eventually.  Mainly because the way it is welded, you can't remove the fender mounting brackets, so you can not remove the breaks either, which need to be done to clean, inspect and possibly replace.  As you can see in the video, I went to lock the breaks when I stoped, out of habbit because I always do with Lil Allis, but on Frank, they are still so gummed up and whatever, that the break lock cams can't even start to engauge.  That is why I am motioning to my sister (taking the video) at the end of the video to put a block behind the tire to keep it from rolling (being safe).
As for the horseshoe step, I might have to keep that!  It really makes getting on much easer!  And it's kinda a conversation piece...

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Originally posted by David Gantt N.C. David Gantt N.C. wrote:

he ain't smoking, should be fine, thanks for showing
Yes, I was gald to see that it wasn't!  When we got it running when I got it, it smoked quite a bit, so I was wondering if it needed motor work...
But now that it has run for a little bit, the smoke is gone.  So I guess things just needed to be run and used a little.  Who knows how long it had been since it ran before I got it.  I suspect a number of years, but I could be wrong.... The PO said it had been "a while", LOL!
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Originally posted by morton(pa) morton(pa) wrote:

Boy oh boy, would love to have that one! Check out that Mag! Jacob, what model mag is that? Is it some sort of early Fairbanks-Morse? You might have found a piece of gold and it wasn't even the tractor!
Glad you like it.  I didn't realize there was anything special about the mag?  Yes, its a Fairbanks morse.  If I have my chicken scratch notes correct, the tag says:
 
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Allis Chalmers
 
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That appears to be the same mag as I have on my 45 C, but I have no idea if it's rare or desirable.  Like you, I just thought it was standard equipment. 
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You know, the C is one of the most agile tractors I sold.  Mowed with one for a week at my Grandfather's farm.  A joy to work with.  Very dependable.
Looks like you got a great buy. 
Love the step.  You should patten it.  If I had a C, B, or CA I would buy it.
Let us know how it goes.
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GOTTA LOVE IT!  Frank is very cool, excellent find!  I"m happy to know I'm not the only one who names their tractors.  My 1955 WD45 is called Ruby.  She was a frankenstien tractor before we restored her too. 
 
Congrats,
Gerald
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1955 WD45 we like to call Ruby
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The step is excellent.     You should keep that even if you completely restore him.   Maybe mount it on something a little more elegant than a hunk of angle iron,  but if it was me, I'd definately keep the step.

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