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swit 
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:18am |
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working for a sugar company they are always looking for uses for are by products theres a company thats buying are cmx desugared molases there loading tires with it instead of calcium chloride pound for pound it weights the same and eco friendly there buying the stuff by the train car load cant rebember companys name i will get it and post it later
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Matt MN
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:23am |
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I suppose that would work. But what about cold weather? I remember the old saying "thick as Molasas in January" I would think the stuff would bounce pretty good in a tire in cold weather.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:24am |
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Honey weighs 12# per gal,that's why I weigh 225#,lol.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:33am |
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the company is called rim guard and no its not thick and wont freeze the sugar has been removed laugh all you want but it is on the market
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:02am |
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I know a guy who just bought it for his JD. They say you don't even need tubes for it. Completely non corrosive. Not really all that pricey either, maybe a little more than calcium.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:07am |
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cleans up really easy and nice too, doesn't taste as bad as calcium either (don't ask please)
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:11am |
It is my understanding that Rim Guard is made from sugar beats.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:45am |
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If you puncture a tire, will the ants will move in herds to your farm? LOL Swit I aint laughin at the idea, its good to see something else be usable and not just more waste product.
Edited by Breeze - 06 Apr 2011 at 8:46am
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 9:04am |
I want to add ballast to add weight to pull in the county tractor pull antique class, but first I have a few questions: 1. How much do you fill the tire? I assume you still want some air in there to cushion the ride.
2. I use my Allis B to cut my grass, how much negative impact on the grass will the extra weight have? (I already have wheel weights that I would guess are 175 lbs each for a total of an extra 300lbs)
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 12:11pm |
Better buy now, I heard they are predicting a mole shortage this summer..........
C'mon, that was a little funny, wasn't it?
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:42pm |
Hello all. We currently have two tractors with the "rim guard" beet juice stuff in them. We've had good luck with it so far. The one tractor is used for feeding and gets used in below zero weather and it works fine. When you get going down the road in road gear, you can notice that its a little stiff to flow but it never gets to bouncing or anything. Just a slight little bump now and then. When its warmer you never even notice it. I was checking pressures one day and a little leaked out of the stem. I decided to taste it and it indeed is sweet and has a mollasses like taste to it. Just my two cents.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 1:49pm |
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It definitely works, and you can tell when you get a leak. You get a powerful hankerin' for pancakes! LOL
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:37pm |
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All OK until the animals chew your valve stems of to get at it
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 3:47pm |
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I'm confused, I thought Rim Guard was beet juice. I thought Rim Guard (beet juice) was pretty pricey......maybe the molasses stuff if cheaper
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 5:53pm |
Miller Tire has discontinued using Rim Guard (beet juice). While it is non-corrosive, it has its disadvantages for the installer. • Harder to pump in cold conditions • Solids tend to settle over time and can’t be pumped out of the storage tank • Cannot mix Rim Guard with other liquid ballast or it may foam • All hoses and couplers must be air tight or foaming will result • If you use too much air pressure during installation, it will foam. • If it foams, you need to wait for foam to settle before finishing filling tire. • It smells. Miller Tire now uses “windshield washer/antifreeze fluid” even though at 8.3 lb/gal it is lighter than chloride & Rim Guard at 10.7 lb/gal When filling tires, only fill to the top of rim. You need to leave an air cushion in the tire. You can put washer fluid in tubeless tires without tubes. Miller Tire sells the air/water adapter tool for filling tires. www.millertire.com
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 6:54pm |
I hate calcium chloride, but I don't like the idea of using windshield washer fliud as alot of cold weather blends of washer fluid contain methanol which is pretty toxic and animals will ingest it.
A few years ago the New Holland dealer where I am from was advertising rim guard but I don't think it made a big hit. Personally I would much prefer non-toxic/non-corrosive alternative to calcium chloride as long as the cost wasn't insane.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 7:52pm |
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My dad has the beet-juice in his and I think it's the way to go. Molasses would be fine too if it has the same properties.
Millertire: All your reasoning for stopping using the product comes from an installers perspective. While valid what does that mean to the end user?
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:00pm |
 Byron WC in SW Wi wrote:
My dad has the beet-juice in his and I think it's the way to go. Molasses would be fine too if it has the same properties.
Millertire: All your reasoning for stopping using the product comes from an installers perspective. While valid what does that mean to the end user?
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Well, I would imagine he would like to make money on the product. He either has to pass along his extra costs in labor and equipment to offer the service or discontinue the service. A lot of people are like me, I was all gung ho on beet juice (AKA borscht!) until I got a quote to fill some tires......all of a sudden used antifreeze sounded better.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:05pm |
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I was thinking what Mr. Everett said. I remember hogs chewing valve stems off tires while in the yard to load manure. Just think what they would do if they found a sweet tasting goop behind a valve stem.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 8:24pm |
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Heard installs hate it because when you get a leak you have lots a bees around. Don't shoot the messenger just what I heard.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 3:39am |
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you are correct it is beet juice i work for michigan sugar it is no longer considered molasses it is also used for live stock feed they are all ways looking for uses for there by products now if they could only get rid of the stink while they are slicing beets and pocessing the sugar
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