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    Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 1:03pm
i just had the spindles in my model b repaired , i installed new king pin bushings with  all the linkage hooked up and the front jacked in the air everything turns free. when you use the tractor it becomes hard to steer to the right . with the steering disconnected it turns free and easy . any suggestions on what to lok for?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TMiller/NC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 2:27pm
Do you know if the steering gear has any type of lubricate in it.  If dry could be binding, mine has a 1/4" pipe plug near the shaft, I removed and replaced with grease fitting and added grease there as oil leaked out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gage164 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 4:49pm
thank you for the reply , it does seem to have grease . what kind of grease did you use and how much did you put in ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote C in Concord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 8:10pm
Some use whatever's in their grease gun.  Others specify lower viscosity (NLGI #0) "corn head" grease.  Only NLGI #0 grease I've found easily is John Deere's AN102562 & Schaeffer's #274 (white cap, NLGI #0).

Assuming your shaft seal is worn/leaking, pump it in until it starts coming out the seal.  Otherwise, give it some and try it.  Repeat until the binding lessens.

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you dont need corn head grease in the B... it came with oil in the beginning.. If it leaks out, then put a zerk and just use normal #2 grease you have for the farm... Anything is fine.....

also with the linkage connected and tires on the ground, turn the wheel left and right till the tire starts to move.. see how much PLAY you have in the gears inside the gear box... SLOP should be less than 45 degrees... If you can turn the wheel 45- 90 degrees than you need to consider internal repairs to gear box.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Steve, I will check the play and let you know how much there is . what kind of oil did they use in the steering box?
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When I turn the wheel left it takes about 20 degrees for the wheel to move ,when I turn right it is a little less
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thats good............ for oil, it was probably 90wt gear lube in the  beginning.. Dont really matter as long as it has SOMETHING in it.

thinking again, the  "corn head grease" is semi fluid like a mix of gear lube and grease... that would be great as the guys mentioned... I have just used regular #2 grease from a gun.


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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