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   Hey everyone!
I need some advice, so I can take care of my 7060 with PS. This is the first tractor I have ever bought last September. I tested the tractor out before I bought it, and everything seemed fine. I even drove the tractor 60 miles to the farm with no problem. 

I put roughly 15 hours on the tractor before the transmission went to hell, and I believe it was my own fault that caused it. The tractor has 4600 original hours. I grew up with a PD, and I am so use to pushing the clutch all the way to the floor out of habit. I knew the inching spool was out of adjustment, but I figured I would address it after harvest and baby the clutch when I could. As mentioned 15 hours is all that I got out of the transmission.

Long story short, I am getting the tractor back in the next week, and I am worried it will happen again. The transmission has been split and rebuilt. The clutch packs were toast, but everything else looked fine. I am assuming the inching spool will be adjusted correctly, so it doesn't stop the tractor when the transmission is warm. It happened a few times.

The newer tractors can shift into gear from park without stepping in the clutch, I don't plan on doing that with the 7060 but wonder if it is possible. Is there any advice for shifting between the gears on the PS? Once the tractor is moving do I still lightly step on the clutch to switch gears, or can I just automatically shift up or down without stepping in the clutch on a Power Shift? 

I step on the brakes when coming to a stop out of habit as the tractor slows down after starting to step in the clutch, so I am using the brakes to stop the tractor when possible.  Is roughly 5000 hours the lifespan on the PS transmission? I read that a few times on the Internet. 

Thanks,
Troy

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tthams Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Denison, Iowa Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote tthams Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Meet my girlfriend. I call her Topanga! Posted: 06 May 2021 at 8:29pm
	Hey everyone! I need some advice, so I can take care of my 7060 with PS. This is the first tractor I have ever bought last September. I tested the tractor out before I bought it, and everything seemed fine. I even drove the tractor 60 miles to the farm with no problem. I put roughly 15 hours on the tractor before the transmission went to hell, and I believe it was my own fault that caused it. The tractor has 4600 original hours. I grew up with a PD, and I am so use to pushing the clutch all the way to the floor out of habit. I knew the inching spool was out of adjustment, but I figured I would address it after harvest and baby the clutch when I could. As mentioned 15 hours is all that I got out of the transmission. Long story short, I am getting the tractor back in the next week, and I am worried it will happen again. The transmission has been split and rebuilt. The clutch packs were toast, but everything else looked fine. I am assuming the inching spool will be adjusted correctly, so it doesn't stop the tractor when the transmission is warm. It happened a few times. The newer tractors can shift into gear from park without stepping in the clutch, I don't plan on doing that with the 7060 but wonder if it is possible. Is there any advice for shifting between the gears on the PS? Once the tractor is moving do I still lightly step on the clutch to switch gears, or can I just automatically shift up or down without stepping in the clutch on a Power Shift? I step on the brakes when coming to a stop out of habit as the tractor slows down after starting to step in the clutch, so I am using the brakes to stop the tractor when possible. Is roughly 5000 hours the lifespan on the PS transmission? I read that a few times on the Internet. Thanks, Troy

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MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 2021 at 8:55pm
	You can shift from one gear to the other without using clutch. Should use clutch from N to first and R. In 5 or 6, if you push clutch in, it will shift back to 4. MACK

tthams Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Denison, Iowa Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote tthams Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 2021 at 5:50am
	Thanks Mack for the response. I was always using the clutch to start the tractor from neutral in the estimated gear I needed for the job when it was working, so sometimes I started in 3rd gear just like I would do on a PD. Is it possible to jump over a gear on these PS transmissions for example 3rd to 5th, or do you need to work up to 5th and go to 4th before getting to 5th gear? The transmission cost a little over $8,000 to repair, and on teacher's salary with a wife a three kids to feed, I can't afford to make an operator error again. Thanks, Troy

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21356	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 2021 at 6:23am
	Shift one gear at a time!! I doubt very much that you destroyed the transmission in 15 hrs of run time. When properly adjusted, you push down with the "inching pedal" to a zone within a couple inches of the floor. You should feel a spring loaded "stop". This is all the farther you need to go to stop the tractors motion. Going down farther into this brake zone then applies the transmission brake, which stops the gears from turning to allow you to shift the range lever from low to high and park. It can also stop the tractors motion like a brake, but should NOT be used to do that. This inching pedal adjustment should be such that you must actually go into the zone intentionally to apply the transmission brake, not just up to the zone stop. There are hundreds of operators who have abused this feature by using it to stop the motion of the tractor without using the tractors wheel BRAKES. Over time, failure to use the wheel brakes and use the transmission brake to stop the tractor from rolling will cause troubles inside the tranny. You didn't do it in 15 hrs. Something else happened or you had a stuck valve causing it to be in two gears at once. Edit: Your owners manual has a whole page dedicated to the explanation of the inching pedal and transmission brake with diagrams. Edited by DrAllis - 07 May 2021 at 7:27am

Allis dave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Allis dave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 2021 at 10:39am
	I don't have any advice, but that is a beautiful tractor

tthams Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Denison, Iowa Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote tthams Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 2021 at 11:12am
	Thanks for the replies. So just to confirm on a PS, don't start the tractor out 3rd if needed if that is what is needed? Always start in first gear and then work up to third gear?

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21356	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 2021 at 6:13pm
	NO !! You can start out in ANY gear you want up to 4th !! Now, I would never start out in 4th while in HIGH RANGE. When in high range, I start out in 2nd gear most of the time, unless the load is very heavy.

rw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Location: United States Points: 384	Post Options Post Reply Quote rw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2021 at 7:35am
	My 7060 PS has always engaged smoothest or been best at inching in second in high range or 4th low. We run the big round baler so we have to clutch and start off a lot. Third high has always shuddered so I try to never do that but have never understood why.

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21356	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2021 at 8:05am
	There was a fix for third gear shudder. No one ever installed it on yours.

NEVER green Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 8179	Post Options Post Reply Quote NEVER green Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2021 at 8:35am
	On my 8050 PS, sometimes I slam the tranny in neutral then use brakes or coast to a stop.
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rw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Location: United States Points: 384	Post Options Post Reply Quote rw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2021 at 9:08am
	Thanks for the info Dr. What does the 3rd gear update involve?

tthams Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Denison, Iowa Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote tthams Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2021 at 11:53am
	Thanks again for the replies with a special shout out to Dr. Allis. You have a lot of wisdom to share, and it is appreciated.

Dan Hauter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 06 Feb 2011 Location: Carlinville, IL Points: 1249	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan Hauter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2021 at 7:04pm
	That's a sharp looking 7060. Did you wax and buff it? Dr. Allis and Mack have a whole lot of knowledge!

tthams Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 18 Oct 2020 Location: Denison, Iowa Points: 140	Post Options Post Reply Quote tthams Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2021 at 7:46pm
	Other than washing it often, it came looking that awesome when I bought it last September. The guy before me took real good care of it. The interior also looks just a good. For my first tractor that I bought, I sure am happy with it, even though the tranny didn't last long.