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NC Bruce 
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 10:32am |
Finally got an AC UnStyled 1937 WC to come live on my farm. A Dream come true for me! Really Classy looking & I think very 'stylish' made ...to be an 'UnStyled WC..ha! Don't know of anyone in my farm family or locally that ever had a WC, so what can you guys tell me about and recommend? How can I fix it up? What do you paint the Allis Chalmers letters on radiator?
This usually cranks about 3rd/4th turn, but what causes the antifreeze to foam up and out ? What size muffler / pipe & length supposed to use?
thanx for help & suggestions!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 11:42am |
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Is that origonal?!? If it is, I would leave it like that. It looks to be in very good condition for it's age!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 11:46am |
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Nice find, Bruce! Where did you find it... NC?
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 12:14pm |
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Bruce nice find I bought one out of a hedge row this past fall that is set up pretty toght but the tin is incredable.I have a 35 that my son is working on right now that was running and it also started about 3 crank but we found a crack in the water jacket that we are in the prossese of fixing,nice old tractor .I would flush the system out and see how it circulates that may stop the foaming or you will find where its pulling in a little air.It should be painted po 1 and you can get the right decals for it from Lyle Wacker.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 12:45pm |
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And for the correct police make sure you don't put a WC decal on the radiator. They never had one, the only place it should say WC is where it is stamped in on the rearend housing in front of the serial number.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 2:51pm |
Nice find Bruce. The 37 WC is the all time #3 Allis tractor produceded in a given model year. 29,208 units made that year making it by far the most common WC ever. Whats not common is how original and nice yours appears to be. It even has the period correct
checked rear tire tread. Has it been repainted before? If it hasn't it actually has more value left as is, but it is a 37 so you could choose to repaint and decal. My question is
did they even bother to put a Allis Chalmers decal of the frames of the 1937 models? I bet their were a lot of help wanted signs around the West Allis plant that year. Most modern plants figure about 250 production days a year. That would of been about 117 WC's built a day. These days a good day is probably 17 units.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 2:58pm |
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Flush the radiator. When I overhauled my WD I used dish soap as a lube for installing the sleeves with o-rings. I was confused after I ran it and it foamed up some. Then I remembered the dish soap. Glad I didn't put antifreeze in it first. Now i use vegetable oil.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 5:41pm |
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That's one of the nicest unstyled WC's I've seen, especially if it's wearing its original paint. Nice find!
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Don Smith
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 6:02pm |
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My 35 wc never had a muffler, just a pipe with the end sort of flatened . Please leave it in its work cloths. It is original once.Don
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 8:48pm |
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Great find. When I got my 37 WC, it was the only one I had seen anywhere around central VA. Not many in this area. It had steel wheels all around but it didn't take long to find a set of rubber to put on it, I liked the look but it was to hard to load and take to shows.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 8:52pm |
Thanx fellows for the kind WC comments and good suggestions.
I'll try to post a 'cleaner' photo, but having trouble with my Insert Image.
I don't think its original paint, I'm pretty sure its been painted already.
I found it in KY, Murph. It was on Craigslist.
I noticed the tire pattern was "old-timey", what do they call the tread type?
Were ya'll saying AC may have left off the decals, due to fast production rates? I saw an old photo of the WC Diamond decal, but only for
I'll try to flush radiator, but with it foaming, does that mean air leaks, is thermostat working, radiator is full, but foams & runs out top after just a few minutes.
Did these WC s ever come with a muffler or just always a small straight pipe?
Again, Thanx for all your help!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:01pm |
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There was an oval muffler for them, but they get so hot they damage the paint on the hood near them. A short striaght pipe is best, but wear hearing protection.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:13pm |
 NC Bruce wrote:
I noticed the tire pattern was "old-timey", what do they call the tread type?
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As I recall, It was called "Turkey Track" They are VERY good for pulling, and field work.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:35pm |
I just tried a new Image / photo ReSizer called VSO. Let's see how it looks.
 The WC photos were taken late at sunset, and may look orange....ha!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:49pm |
These photos are too large now.....!
Looks like orange paint on steering wheel too!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 9:51pm |
Dang, thats a nice WC!
What part of Ky did it come from?
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 10:12pm |
It came last, from near Middlesboro, Ky., but the fellow said he thought it came from up North somewhere(Ohio)? Supposedly the last man that owned it, kept it on his carport except for holidays to put in yard with lights on it? Hopefully I can put on a set of front spoke wheels.
I've really never learned to handcrank an AC till this week. Was told, go to bottom, catch hold, pull up 1/4 spin (never full spin). This WC usually cranks 3rd,4th time, if you'll pull it hard. I saw an old photo on internet, shows a WC in field in '37, with the crankhandle in "up" position. I checked this one, and it's worn but there's a notch originally made to keep handle up....I guess to not drag trash or hang something.
The Throttle lever won't hold, very very worn teeth and lever. Would you re-grind, or replace?
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Posted: 28 Jan 2010 at 11:16pm |
It never hurts to re-dress them with a grinder or a file, but the spring hardly ever is stout enough to keep the throttle in place.
My fix was to drive the lever-pin that the spring slips over out and replace it with a bolt and nut. Hunt down a good used valve spring and place the spring w/retainer on top of the lever instead of the stock position of being beneath. The larger diameter valve spring from the top helps support the lever better. Run the bolt down through the valve spring and hole that the pin once occupied, then adjust the tension with the nut till the lever stays put. Its not original, but works.
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 5:33am |
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One thing I found that works on my C throttle was to loosen the set screw and preload the throttle rod and tighten screw so that the rod and lever has a twisting force against the plate with teeth. Did I make any sense? Can't remember the set up exactly for a WC so it may or may not work.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 6:24am |
The foaming could be caused by a leaking head gasket.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 6:41am |
NC Bruce wrote:
Hopefully I can put on a set of front spoke wheels. |
You do have the correct wheels for a 37.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 7:01am |
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Bruce you will have alot of fun with that tractor it looks like it is in great shape.The fenders look real nice and not bent.Those are real hard to straighten when bent because they where made of real steel back then.And you are very fortunate to have the duel fuel system stiil intacked with the starter tank .Again Nice Find!! If you need anything feel free to email me I might be able to help
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 8:20am |
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You even have some of the good stuff. radiator shield, little tank. Crank is even bent like mine. lol. Like the dated rear tread.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 1:05pm |
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I would be thinking compression leaking into the coolant would be the cause. A block tester would tell for sure. If you pull the head, remember that most of the blocks you will find are cracked betwen the cylinders on the head deck and as long as they aren't spread open, just put it together with a new gasket.
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