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Loader on a d17 or 180 |
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elec
Bronze Level Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Location: mi Points: 86 |
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Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 10:34am |
I have a 417 loader. Was told it would fit the 180. Thought I would put it out here to ask which tractor would be better for a loader, 180 or d17? 180 has better power steering but I like the hand clutch on d17 better. Not worried about starting the 180 in the winter due to the fact I have a d15 with loader. I'd mostly be using the 417loader for hay in the summer.
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Darb210
Orange Level Joined: 10 Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Points: 829 |
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I have had it both ways, after using a 180 with a loader you would not want to go back to a D17. 180 gets my vote!
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20485 |
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417 loader doesn't fit a 180.
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Joe Goodwill
Bronze Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Souris Manitoba Points: 86 |
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I have loaded thousands of large round bales with a Series 1 D17 and a farm hand loader. The long handle on the clutch is great to sneak up to the trailer. Look after the front end and add some weight to the back end.
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elec
Bronze Level Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Location: mi Points: 86 |
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I'm not planning on using it for round bales as I do small square bales and I have a grapple for that.
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JJ_ncOhio
Bronze Level Joined: 11 Mar 2014 Location: Polk, Ohio Points: 56 |
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Not to be argumentative but I currently have a 417-loader mounted on a 180. Did not use sub frame with reservoir in the upright. Width is fine, but length wise it's tight. Not a heavy use unit no matter how you slice it. Put a skid steer quick coupler on it, gp bucket makes a great motorized wheel barrow, predominantly handles bale forks with 4x5 rd bales. I'd gladly give up the 417 for a different unit, what ever model that would fit better.
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20485 |
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A 417 wasn't made for a 180/185. Just because you have one grafted on there doesn't mean it can't be done, but it was never intended to be. And, the side frame width is 1 1/2" wider on your tractor so not sure how it's pinched on there. How much too short were the angle irons going to the axles ?? at least 6 inches ?? 500 series loader was made for your tractor. Frame and boom arms are longer and the towers are taller and frame width matches the tractor side frames.
Edited by DrAllis - 13 Aug 2023 at 9:13pm |
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JJ_ncOhio
Bronze Level Joined: 11 Mar 2014 Location: Polk, Ohio Points: 56 |
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Right, very definitely not designed to 180/185s. Let me tell you. When I was looking for a loader for this particular tractor, this is what I came up with at that time. Pulled it out of the usable equipment area of an AC specific junk yard thats local here. Straight, not welded up or bent, needs paint. They told me it came in mounted on a 180 /85 that they parted. Mounted on my tractor with no adjustments. Axle brackets lined right up. Sub frame mounted, loader boom slid right in, no shoe horning it on. Things are square, parallel, looking factory. Now in this units history if someone did modify it to fit (not denying the possibility or probability that it did happen) they did a job good done well. You'd never know it to look at it, very much not cobbled together.
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DrAllis
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If there is a cross bar attached to the top of the towers, it's a 500 loader, which is made for that tractor. A 400 has towers too short to have a cross bar on a 180 because the hood would be too tall.
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