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   Hey guys I just installed led lights in my 2-70 white. They seem to have a bit of a flicker though. Do you guys have any thoughts why this is? 

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bobkyllo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: minnesota Points: 1519	Post Options Post Reply Quote bobkyllo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Led light experts Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 4:31pm
	Hey guys I just installed led lights in my 2-70 white. They seem to have a bit of a flicker though. Do you guys have any thoughts why this is?

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jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21609	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 5:33pm
	possibly a bad ground. 'flicker' may be caused by vibration ,say two body panels bolted together. a little corrosion and the power gets interrupted...on/off..on..off... Best 'ground' is the negatve of the battery, so run the -ve of the LED to there. other possibility is a faulty on/off power switch for the LED light. If old, it may 'bounce' internally and you'll see 'flicker'. Old incandescent bulbs have a 'huge' time lag and oour eyeballs can't see this 'flickering' occour. LEDs are FAST to turn on AND off and that we can see. So if this occurs, replace the switch. 3rd possibilty is that the LEDs are 'defective' though rare. Maybe a bad solder joint inside. To test power directly from the battery. IF you get flicker...gotta be the LED. Jay
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bobkyllo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: minnesota Points: 1519	Post Options Post Reply Quote bobkyllo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 7:04pm
	This flicker is occurring even with the tractor off. I highly doubt a bad ground seeing as the old lights were good just old and dull compared to the modern led

bobkyllo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: minnesota Points: 1519	Post Options Post Reply Quote bobkyllo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 7:06pm
	I should also say I replaced the two front lights with led bulbs. Dad suggested I try a new led and an old incandescent bulbs side by side. Possibly there isn't enough resistance in the circuit to make a led work correctly. Well when I done that the flicker was gone so I thought. After watching it for a minute and feeling proud as a peacock the led started flickering very quickly.

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21609	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 7:52pm
	hmm.. do they flicker on just battery power or do they flicker when the tractor is running? If they're fine on just battery and flicker when running, then it's probably it's noise from the charging circuitry. If that's the case, adding a filter capacitor across the genny or alt. output will fix it. Jay
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wide Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 29 Dec 2018 Location: north iowa Points: 169	Post Options Post Reply Quote wide Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 8:56pm
	If they only flash when it's running could be caused by vibration and a bad ground connection somewhere. Or a flashing LED could indicate your alternator is putting out pulsed DC,.. maybe a bad rectifier diode in the alternator. Not the first thing to check but it's possible.

bobkyllo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: minnesota Points: 1519	Post Options Post Reply Quote bobkyllo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 8:30am
	So far they just flicker with battery power. I haven't started it yet to see what will happen

john(MI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263	Post Options Post Reply Quote john(MI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 9:30am
	Is it cold out? Friend put some in his barn and they flicker when it's cold.
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DaveKamp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5644	Post Options Post Reply Quote DaveKamp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 5:33pm
	The reason why they're flickering is much simpler: The LED draws only a small fraction of the current of an incandescent. As a result, it doesn't take much contamination in a connector to cause it to have problems. Your LED lamps are BULB REPLACEMENTS, which means they plug into the existing sockets... ones that've been used, and exposed for years. PRobably have rusty steel springs inside the bases 'n stuff... which is perfect for causing just enough disruption in current flow to keep the LEDs from running constantly. Take the LED bulbs out, scrub the HECK out'a the sockets, and replace the LED bulbs... they'll work just fine for a while, then the corrosion will return, and you'll hafta clean it again. Reason there, is that there's two different types of metals in the contacts. Dissimilar metals become a corrosion point, and a DIODE... a SEMICONDUCTOR of sorts. You can slow this process by applying dielectric (insulating) grease to the lamp base and socket- it will help exclude moisture and air, so that your cleaning opteration lasts a WHOLE LOT longer. Any other connections through the machine (i.e. if you're using the chassis ground, like the original lamps), it'll be same for all other bonds, just like the socket. My preferred method, is to run ALL lamps with two-wire (red and black) and bring the negatives back to a really good return point (battery, as noted above). Saves lots of these headaches, and a few others too.
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shameless dude Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611	Post Options Post Reply Quote shameless dude Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 2:03am
	was talking to sum buddies at coffee yesterday AM, they have mounted LED light bars to some of their vehicles, but had problems with the light switches, kept having to replace them a lot. finally one dude said he bought an old style dimmer switch, the kind that used to be on the floor of vehicles. (some of you young'ins won't know what i'm talking about) and they use them for turning the LED bars on and off. oh...and if you do this, ask anyone at the counter at O'reillys for one...you'll laugh all day!

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	Yeah no light will click on in their head.
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MichaelSavan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 26 Jul 2022 Location: New Jersey Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote MichaelSavan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 8:44am
	Sometimes it happens with these bulbs. Unfortunately, I had a similar experience and thought it was a big problem. I thought they might become less useful in the future, so I decided to change. It happened again later and the new ones did the same thing. My friend says he didn't have this problem he has LED light strips for car interior. So now it seems like I didn't make the right choice right away. However, he's only had these strips for a month, and they may flicker later. So I can't say for sure. My suggestion: if you are happy with it and not annoyed, don't change it. Chances are good that the other bulbs are flickering too. Or choose proven ones. Edited by MichaelSavan - 28 Jul 2022 at 8:52am

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41229	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2022 at 9:26am
	https://www.instyleled.co.uk/what-causes-led-flicker-and-how-can-i-stop-it-happening/ Seems lot of different ideas - most point to the driver used to power the LED - internal or external and the voltage output of same
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