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8070nc 
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Posted: 19 Sep 2023 at 5:45pm |
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Can any one tell me how to increase the hydraulic pressure on a l3 combine. I only have 1600 psi and itwont raise the header. I have a service manual ordered from agco but havent recieved it yet
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1984 80780
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DrAllis
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Posted: 19 Sep 2023 at 6:42pm |
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If you start the engine cold, throttle it up and try and lift the head, does it lift the head with cold hydraulic oil?? If so, I'll bet your hydraulic pump has issues, meaning turning up the pressure ain't gonna happen.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2023 at 7:45pm |
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Cold oil doesnt make any difference. I put a pressure guage on the header lift circuit and only have 1600 pounds. Its probably the pump I agree I found the relief valve. I want to get some shims to set it up before I get into changing the pump
Thank you. I appreiate your help
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8070nc
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Posted: 19 Sep 2023 at 7:51pm |
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I want to clarify a little. The only way i know of to see if its the pump is shim the relief valve. If pressure doesnt increase I know its the pump. If theres another way ill be glad to do it
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 9:18pm |
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When the wear plates get worn and the back up rubbers get old they don't make the pressure. I doub't shimming relief will change much .
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Posted: 20 Sep 2023 at 10:20pm |
You can try - remove the metal cap from the relief valve on the MAster Valve , if it has one - the valve slice on the front end with only one coil. Loosen the jam nut and screw in.
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Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 7:27am |
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Are you sure your belt is tight or not worn driving the Hdy pump? If its slipping the pump will not make enough pressure to raise the header.
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Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 8:56am |
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Thanks for the replys
If theres arelief valve on the master valve I cant find it
I put a new belt on it
I had a pressure guage on the header lift circuit so it was deadheading and it loaded the engine substantially even wide open so I dont think the belt is slipping. I have a more pressing problem now. I took a cap off of what turned out to be the priority valve thinking it might be the relief. Put it back in thinking I had it back just like it was now no steering
It will pick up the bean head. Ive got to figure out this priority valve now ill content with header lift later
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Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 2:41pm |
I have seen header lift very much slowed down on MH2's by a spring breaking inside the electric control valve. Pieces would jam the little steel bb in side it. Just guessing, but L and F series Gleaner all used the same type electric controlled hydraulic valves?
Another it should of never happened but did, is the weld on the header lift cylinder failed at the fitting. It was about 15 years old and 5000 hours. Why that long and all of a sudden fail.
I would check the pressure in another circuit before replacing pump. Another thought that others can say more about, because I could be wrong. Is it possible the wiring or magnet is going bad and not opening the valve up to give full pressure?
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