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AllisChalmers37 
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 5:28pm |
I found this during my hunt. Is it a good deal?? What is the rate of fuel consumption on this beast? AC 7045 Tractor - $7850 (Leitchfield, KY)
Date: 2011-03-06, 10:56AM EST
Reply to: sale-ypvc5-2250115634@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
AC 7045 Tractor, has good cab will all of glass, diesel, power steering,
excellent running engine, starts easy, good clutch, brakes, and
transmission, 3 sets remotes, ready to go to farm and start working,
full rack of front weights, $7850, Leitchfield, KY, 259-0518
- Location: Leitchfield, KY
- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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R.W
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 5:33pm |
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Check out what the hours are and also ask if the hour meter works...
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 5:34pm |
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Compared to some green 150 HP tractors, that's pretty cheap power.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 5:51pm |
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I never owned or even ran a 7000 series before. But I can name two guys that I know that got rid of them do to eating to much fuel. They both now have 8000 series. They say there beter on fuel then the 7000 where. That is all I know about them. Just for me anyway knowing that, I look the other way when I see one. Eric
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 6:10pm |
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looks like a good deal to me. 7045's around here are running about 10K in good shape. power-shift? pictures are hard to tell how nice it is, need to see in person. Ed.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 6:30pm |
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Ed - I know you can turn a 426 up at the pump but can you turn one down from the factory setting any to save fuel if you don't need all the HP? Just curious since Jeremy was looking for a slightly lower HP tractor than a 7045. Mike
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 6:42pm |
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If it's as good mechanical as it appears cosmetically that is a good deal. Trust me you can spend a decent amount of money getting a tractor that wasn't well cared for back up to snuff.
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MikeB (SD)
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 6:59pm |
I always wanted my dad to trade the the 4020 or XT190 for one of those when they were new. Instead he kept them both and bought a used 440 AC. They should be the best 7000 series ever since the had the heavy 7060 powertrain and by the late seventies the Allis powershift had passed John Deere in powershift as a percent of sales.
The thing about fuel economy was weird to as two people that I know of that bought them new said the first time they put them on the dyno they put out about 173 horse quite a jump from the rated 146. Maybe 427/435HP will comment as I think he was in tractor engineering at that time. The was a post by JDSeller over on the other forum about what a pos these tractors were and how he claimed these put the nail in the coffin for Allis, I just bit my lip and let him keep typing. Their is a super nice looking one over on tractorhouse.com with 2600 original hours in Coxs Creek Kentucky it's priced at $19,500.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 7:06pm |
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Been told by source with lots of knowledge of all AC machinery that the 7045's were a very good machine, seems like cheap $$ for that HP, if it has no major issues. I cannot understand the fuel consumption concern on this size tractor, does the difference really make a difference in the long run? What is the actual difference in fuel consumption?
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 7:30pm |
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I am trying to make a deal on a rough 7020. I like the fact that it has the 301 engine.I have been told they use a lot less fuel than the ones with the big engine. BTW, if I get it I will need a set of doors and a back glass. I wonder how much that will cost. I can order a back glass but I think the latches and hinge are gone.JP
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 7:41pm |
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If it's as good as it looks it's a good buy.I have one and it's a very good tractor.I don't think the 7045 uses to much fuel.Any big block 150 hp tractor is going to use a little fuel when worked hard.Have a 7020 that is very good on fuel but it's only 125 hp and can't handle the big tools.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 7:50pm |
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JP: Hope you have better (cheaper) luck than me.Not sure my experience with back glass for a factory cab on a AC 220 would apply to the back glass for 7000 series, but I found that it was really, really expensive for a new piece. I was told it was so expensive because it has the holes in it for the hinges. Safety Glass cut to size without hinge holes is pretty reasonable at my local glass shop. I wasn't able to find any used. Found mine at A & I of all places.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 8:22pm |
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Dale, A&I has this rear glass and it is not that bad a price but I think all the hardware is missing. I made a guy a frame the other day so he could have a glass cut for his but he had the hardware. I would rather have it fixed back original. Wonder what a set of doors would cost.JP
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 8:31pm |
 Skyhighballoon(MO) wrote:
Ed - I know you can turn a 426 up at the pump but can you turn one down from the factory setting any to save fuel if you don't need all the HP? Just curious since Jeremy was looki
ng for a slightly lower HP tractor than a 7045. Mike
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There would be no need to turn down the fuel, since it won't put out any more that is demanded, so if you have an 80hp load on it, that will be all it delivers. the 426 tractors do use more fuel than 7020 and down(301 tractors). You can never have too much power! LOL! Ed.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 8:40pm |
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JP: Doors for 7000 series must be different than for the LaPorte cab for a 220. At least for 7000 owners I would hope so. For my 220, I was not able to find a good set of used doors and new ones are apparently non-existent, although there's a lot more Allis product in the US. Shipping costs to Canada generally makes it too expensive to source US parts.
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:30pm |
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Dale, you can always come down on "vacation" and haul the doors home. "Those, oh their just part of the camper."
Edited by JohnCO - 07 Mar 2011 at 10:32pm
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 3:13am |
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had to buy a back glass for my 7010, thinkin it was aboyt $135.00 delivered, but can't remember for sure. same glas on all 70 sieries cabs. i may have a set of doors in the shed that colapsed this winter, will have to look!
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 3:14am |
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that tractor looks good 37!
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Adam Stratton
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:57am |
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I think its a touch high unless it has low hours or has had recent work done. My 7045 powerdirector is probably my favorite tractor I have ever driven. I had one with Bosch injectors and one with the Allis ones, and the Bosch injectors really increased the fuel economy, so that is something you might look into.
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 8:15am |
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If everything works and no blow by then I'd jump on it. Dad's biggest tractor was a 7045 and I spent many an hour in it when I was just out of high school. We had no problems with it and fuel use was never an issue as it was a big tractor at the time. Dad's was a power shift.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 8:32am |
As others have said in previous posts, the 7045 is a good tractor. Heck, all of the 7000 series tractors are good if maintained properly -in my opinion. The 7045 is a detuned 426 sitting in a 7060 black chassis. The 7045s 146hp 426 was turbo only, while the 7060s 161hp 426 had a turbo & intercooler. The 7045 was introduced in 1977 as a black chassis tractor. Its maroon chassis counterpart was the earlier 7040. Here is a comparisons of the three models from Norm Swinfords AC 1914-1985 book page 170:
7040 7045 7060
engine 426 3500II 670T 670I
PD transmission plates of (low/high) 3/2 4/2 rest is the same as 7045
Power shift transmission yes yes
differential ring gear width of 2.30" 2.55"
differential lock plate 3 4
differential pinions 2 4
final drive gear width 2.0" 2.0"
final drive ratio 5.6:1 5.4:1
If the 7045 that you have posted is in good shape, then the price listed is a steal.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 8:46am |
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The only guy I ever heard complain about any 7000 series tractors was a Deere man who owned a 7060 and his other tractor was a 4850 Deere. He pulled the same equipment with each and the 4850 was better on fuel he claimed but the 7060 was way overworked and that causes poor fuel economy and the 4850 is a whole series newer besides. Otherwise all I ever heard is bragging on fuel economy. If you are expecting the economy of a 190XT that ain't gonna happen. Very few older tractors ever come close to a 190XT in fuel economy and that might spoil many farmers when they go to a big block 7000 series.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 9:20am |
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How many hours do you plan on using it a year and type of work
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 9:35am |
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I have a 7045 PS. The motor was rebuilt with M&W pistons. A year or two before, the engine in our N6 went down. I had its intercooler added to tthe 7045 during the rebuild. It now can start on the coldest days that winter can give to Iowa. I am told that the 7060 has a bigger radiator then the 7045, but sofar I haven't needed it. If you want the tractor for tillage, then the 20 speed trans will serve best. If you want a loader, spray, or wagon/road tractor then you want the PS trans. To move snow, you will grind the gears with the PD. The PS outshines all when it comes to loader work. Mine pushes a TA46B Westondorf with a 9' bucket. Go from forward to reverse quick as a hickup. In case you still don't know, I love it.
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