This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Topics > Pulling Forum
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


is shorter hitch better?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 20528
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2014 at 6:51am
Not really and no. It's all about the actual hitch point/pull point. The drawbar support located close to the pulling point is a good idea, but in the end has no extra (or less) effect on downward pull. The only time it does, is when the drawbar beam is so weak in design that the flexing of it lowers the hitch point. The angle of the drawbar pulling beam also has zero effect on anything as long as it is bolted solid and cannot move up or down under direct pull. This is an old wives tale. Occasionally you'll see someone who has an adjustable 3point hitch top link located in a vertical fashion going directly up from the drawbar to a high place under the seat to control the height of the drawbar beam. All they are dong is seeing an immediate tractor tip-over if the drawbar lets go at the wrong place down below. There is no pull advantage. The drawbar when bolted SOLID is an integral part of the chassis and the angle it is at means nothing.......as long as it's bolted solid with zero movement. And there will be those who will argue this until he77 freezes over.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
NEVER green View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 28 Feb 2013
Location: MN.
Points: 7498
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NEVER green Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2014 at 8:08am
    MY view is, the shorter the hitch the closer the axle is to the front of the sled. This creates a steeper angle on the chain thus taking weight off front of sled and adding it to hitch.
2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040   R50       
Back to Top
Charlie175 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Shenandoah, VA
Points: 6358
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie175 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2014 at 8:43am
Originally posted by NEVER green NEVER green wrote:

    MY view is, the shorter the hitch the closer the axle is to the front of the sled. This creates a steeper angle on the chain thus taking weight off front of sled and adding it to hitch.

Eh?
The math is the same.
The chain length and height do not change, so the angle is the same regardless of the hitch length.
The applied down force does change in relation to the balance point of the tractor.
Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
Back to Top
Charlie175 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Shenandoah, VA
Points: 6358
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie175 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2014 at 8:47am
Maybe this shows it
Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
Back to Top
missicbc View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 15 Sep 2014
Location: Berlin
Points: 3
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote missicbc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 5:20am
This is a geometric thought. Someone with Fut 15 Coins    pulling experience may have a different answer
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum