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Jacob, sounds like you are well into the adventure involved in digging into a 60+ year-old tractor! The good news is that all of those things are probably repairable, given a liberal application of time and money! As to your engine oil capacity question.....sounds like it's now overfilled - I'd be careful to not run it that way too much. I don't own a WD, but my friend does - will ask him to measure the length of the stick for you. The dipstick should not be running into any moving parts when inserted.
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Originally posted by Dave(inMA) Dave(inMA) wrote:

Jacob, sounds like you are well into the adventure involved in digging into a 60+ year-old tractor! The good news is that all of those things are probably repairable, given a liberal application of time and money! As to your engine oil capacity question.....sounds like it's now overfilled - I'd be careful to not run it that way too much. I don't own a WD, but my friend does - will ask him to measure the length of the stick for you. The dipstick should not be running into any moving parts when inserted.
 
Oh yes, there is always sometihing else to fix... LOL!  I enjoy it thouugh, its a fun hobby, and when it becomes unfun, you can just walk away for a while and work on something else...
 
As for the engine oil, that is what I thought about being over filled, but where is it going if the dipstick is still not "full"?  I'm puzzled.  Thank's for getting the measurment, I appreciate it!  Mabey that will solve the mystery....
Anyone have any ideas what it could be hitting when inserted?  You can feel the dipstick vibrate like its end is just rubbing on something rotating in the engine while inserting, but it stops once all the way in.  Am I crazy?  Mabey the dipstick should have a bend in it, and it dosent?  Thinking out loud here....  Should the dipstick be strait like a C dipstick?
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Check it after the oil has all flowed back into the pan.  It sounds like you ran it and checked it right away-the engine could be holding up to a quart I would think. 
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Jacob, I measured the dipstick in my friend's WD. It's 9.5" from tip to the ring that seals against the dipstick hole. And it's straight - no bends. I'd let the oil run down and check it again if the dipstick "measures up". LOL
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Ok,
 
So I just called Dad, which just happened to be in the woods with the tractor.  He did some checking for me.
 
The dipstick checks out.  Its 9.5 inches like it should be, and not bent.
 
Dad says the oil level (now that it has been siting since Thanksgiving) is "right where it should be" in between the high and low marks.
 
So that answers part of the mystery, the oil just must have not all drained back to the bottom when I chacked it.
 
And the only thing we can think of is that we inadvertenly bought a one gallon, and one quart jug of oil originally, as opposed to the 5 quart jug and one quart jug I THOUGHT I got.  Then added another quart once I seen I was still low.  But I'm almost positive I got the 5 quart jug.
Dad's going to check the jugs once he gets home (which we put the used oil in for recycling) But he put some out this week for recycling, so we might not know that way.....
 
 

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Ok,
 
So I've been doing some detective work.  I found the recept for when I got oil. (I know, you're not supposed to keep records of expences, right, LOL!)
It clearly shows that I got both the 5 quart jug and one quart like I thought I got.  Then the next day I got the additional one quart since I knew it was low. 
That adds up to 7 quarts the last time I checked.
Where did the extra quart go?  The dipstick shows it's perfect oil level now.  There is no obvious sign of oil leaks, and if there was one big enough to loose the original one quart immeditaly after I filled it up (or even after it all drained back to the bottom of the engine), you would think we would have noticed that, right? LOL!  And if that was the case, the engine would be drained empty by now....
 
Is there any chance oil pans could have been changed from a tractor with a bigger sump?  I'm scraping for possibilities here....
 
What am I missing?  Show me why I'm stupid guys!
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Your dipstick is very likely touching the crank when you're pulling it out with the engine running. If it doesn't rub when it's fully inserted, I wouldn't worry about it.
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most of the time the if the dip stick is hitting the crankshaft the dipstick will come up out of the engine.  also in welding cups on the oil pans  for my stoker crankshafts I have found that it takes ten quarts to get up to where the cork oil pan to main gaskets go. so i dont think seven quarts would hurt anyting . it would blow out the rear rope seal if over filled extremely.

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You may find gaskets won't do the trick on the exhaust. I put a new manifold on my 45 because the top was messed up and new gaskets didn't last a month. I then pulled the head and milled it, recutt the manifold, and put new gaskets in and it hasn't leaked in several years.
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

You may find gaskets won't do the trick on the exhaust. I put a new manifold on my 45 because the top was messed up and new gaskets didn't last a month. I then pulled the head and milled it, recutt the manifold, and put new gaskets in and it hasn't leaked in several years.
 
Hopefully that isin't the case.  I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there.  When the day comes to pull the manifold and I can check things over closer, I'll post an update.  Thanks for the heads up though!
Where did you get your gaskets?
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