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AC WD45 
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 2:47pm |
I want to see this beast in action
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Josh Day
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 2:50pm |
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I would to!!
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 2:55pm |
Most likely would pull a good sized load, even a plow! I really would like to see it in action.
Edited by JoeO(CMO) - 24 Oct 2011 at 3:05pm
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 3:07pm |
Rather drive one of these :
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jccleav
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 3:20pm |
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What would you call that thing? I would hate to turn it around.
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 3:32pm |
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As cool as it is, I wouldn't want the back unit to have better traction or more horses than the fronts, I see a wreck ahead it it did! :-)
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AC WD45
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 4:16pm |
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With hydraulic steering you'd blow a pump or cylinder before you'd bent the frame
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 4:51pm |
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I guess I wasn't talking about bending a frame, I was just thinking of folding that thing up, but your point would seem to hold true there as well, depending on how it was plumbed. If both cylinders on one side are simply plumbed together with no restrictions, it would take very little to force the center tractor sideways, since one cylinder will extend while the other retracts, and ise versa on the other side.
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HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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Charlie175
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 5:02pm |
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3 engines at 80hp each, 240 hp on tap.
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AC WD45
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 5:27pm |
 Orange Blood wrote:
I guess I wasn't talking about bending a frame, I was just thinking of folding that thing up, but your point would seem to hold true there as well, depending on how it was plumbed. If both cylinders on one side are simply plumbed together with no restrictions, it would take very little to force the center tractor sideways, since one cylinder will extend while the other retracts, and ise versa on the other side. |
I'm guessing it has some type of ball-valve to prevent this, atleast, I hope it does lol. It's claimed it will pull 40 ft of plows, in fifth gear but thats all I know about it
| Now here's what they call the ultimate 2-cylinder tractor - it's (3) 830's ganged together. Supposedly it'll pull 40ft of plows in 5th gear. |
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AC WD45
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 5:58pm |
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That or some sort of pressure equalizer
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:18pm |
Nice unit! It was built and is owned by Don Dufner of Buxton, ND. Have seen it in action at the Rollag, MN show. He built it in 1994 and it was his main tractor for several years on his 3000 acre farm. Rear tractor has an engine shut off switch to kill the engine in case it gets turned to short. This takes care of jack knifing and getting pushed around. Don has built a lot of tandem and triple tractors in the last 50 years. He will take time to talk to any one and share information. I believe there are videos on You Tube of this tractor in action at the Rollag show. I have some pictures from the 2008 Rollag show of Don plowing with the "830" Special but don't know how to post them.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:24pm |
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Folks that's the first ever JD 6cyl unless we count pony motors. That thing would sure be handy for backin a pair of wagons in the barn.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:40pm |
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from youtube, you'll have to cut and paste it
http://youtu.be/j2BAhrLIz_I
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:54pm |
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How many mechanics,,, n parts stores do we need to keep it workin hard, not just crusin in a parade?? Ha Ha!
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 7:28pm |
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That is a lot of torque, Big field tractor Onley !! Tony
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 8:18pm |
here it is in action [TUBE]JDb7RvPZhbs&feature=related[/TUBE]
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red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 8:31pm |
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I will bet the 4W305 will do more work on less fuel than that green thing. MACK
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 8:38pm |
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That round cab with the 2 cylinder sound is messing with me :)
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 8:53pm |
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If it takes 4 people to operate it it makes combining the tractors sortta useless doesn't it????
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AC WD45
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:00pm |
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Thats how all of those plows were back when those plows were built. Nobody had hydraulics yet. Everything ran on steam.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:05pm |
Even though I do appreciate the guy's ingenuity and hard work for building this thing I would still have to agree with Mack and RFDeere for all practical purposes. But it does make a great conversation piece.JP
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:58pm |
Jack(Ky) wrote:
Even though I do appreciate the guy's ingenuity and hard work for building this thing I would still have to agree with Mack and RFDeere for all practical purposes. But it does make a great conversation piece.JP |
That it does! I may be somewhat bias, due to my soft spot of JD because grandpa restored a 43 B as my first puller, but like I said, Deere or not, that thing is cool. and I'd love to see it in person.
Edited by AC WD45 - 24 Oct 2011 at 9:58pm
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 10:02pm |
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The late JD 2 cylinder tractors set records for fuel economy. Forgotten in the new generation JD that tended to be hungry. Beat only in the last decade.
Gerald J.
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Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 6:38am |
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The diesel 2cyl's maybe good on fuel but when my brother-in-laws 60 gas was broke down and he used my wd to farm that year with a 45 crank and overbore with big manifold and carb it still used about half the fuel as the deere. He couldn't believe it and I still rub it in 10 years later.
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Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 9:02am |
KGood wrote:
The diesel 2cyl's maybe good on fuel but when my brother-in-laws 60 gas was broke down and he used my wd to farm that year with a 45 crank and overbore with big manifold and carb it still used about half the fuel as the deere. He couldn't believe it and I still rub it in 10 years later. |
The gas two-cylinders were not known for being good on fuel.........the two-cylinder diesels were. The 720 diesel held the fuel economy record for a long time after they didn't even make them anymore.
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