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    Posted: 05 Jul 2024 at 3:38pm
I've a 415 Allis loader on my D15 with the front mount pump and put a quick attach on her and thought I could lift a pallet weighing about 2200 lbs, no go would take a little weight off the trailer but not enough to be able to get it off of the trailer, here are my cly dimensions lift cly bore-2.339, rod-1.515, stroke-31", tilt cly, bore-2.318, rod-1.50, stroke-20", the pump should be rated at 2000psi. 
 What size cly would I've to go to to be able to lift up to 2500 lbs or is there anything else I could do to the old girl to make it work. TIA.


Edited by Kenny L. - 05 Jul 2024 at 10:28pm
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A 2.500" cylinder has 15% more power than a 2.300" cylinder. A 2.750" bore cylinder has 30% more power than a 2.300" bore. All are figured at 2,000 psi pressure.
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I've got a TA 46 I'll sell you, put it on that 8030 and you'll have all kinds of lifting capacity!
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Have a look at the Allis Model 615, the Industrial version of the D-15.

Note the heavy duty Loader Boom, the stronger Industrial Front Axle, the bigger lift and tilt Cylinders.

All things to consider if lifting a heavier load.

Gary



https://www.allis01.com/fossto/69-615/ac-69-615.html

https://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/0/9/94-allis-chalmers-615.html
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I'm sure there was someone on this site that found/bought new boom cylinders for a 400 or 500 loader that were a little larger in bore diameter ??
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Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

I've got a TA 46 I'll sell you, put it on that 8030 and you'll have all kinds of lifting capacity!

 Mike,give me a call when you can.
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I don't believe the 400/500 loaders were designed to lift 2000 lbs.
Not that it can't do it on a larger tractor but on a D15... not safe..

I have an I600 industrial same as D15. But solid front axle and shuttle.
Loaded tires and 1000 lbs on the 3 point. Solid and stable wit 10:00 x 16's on the front.
It will lift 1500 lbs round bales but not something i do regularly.

I believe your cylinders on your loader are rated to help keep you safe.

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FYI

I have a set of cylinders of an I600 industrial if you are interested ?

They came off an operating machine and was keeping them as spares. I never needed them.
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Hey Kenny

I replied to your PM .

A d included my cell #.

Trxt me and ill send you the info you requested.
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To update the post I decided to buy a skidloader instead of end up abusing the old and breaking something like the kneels or worst. Thanks for all the reply's 
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