Hutchinson Show Coming Out Party: 42S Grader

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Hi guys-Here are some pictures of the 42S I have been working on.   Picked it up in November 2013.  She still isn't pretty but I hope to get it to the show.
Here is some background on it:
1939 
42S is based on the UC tractor (same mechanicals engine back)
It appears that it had been sitting for 10+ years (based on tree growth around it).  Lucky for it, it was parked next to a nudist colony (I'm serious!  East Bethel, MN).
Front rims were shot...I ended up finding some 20" split rims to put on it.
Original rear rims were gone (it is suppose to have 24" duals similar to an on-highway truck of that era).  After much searching, I selected the same solution that the previous owner had...26" tractor rims.
The reason for parking it was that it dropped a valve in #1 cylinder and put a hole in the head.   These valves did not have a keeper ring on them that you see on many UM engines.
It was used for spreading asphalt at one time.  It's last use was clearing snow from parking lots.
The drives are all mechanical driven off the front of the engine...all this stuff was shelled out so someone had mounted a Briggs and Stratton engine near the main control box.
Left to do...get the canopy done and get all the actuators working.
Someone had painted "Happy Birthday Jan" on the side...several Allis friends have reported that they have used a picture of this to convince their wives that they are "normal"  ;-).  
Enjoy the pics.
As found:

As I moved it:

Today:

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nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Hutchinson Show Coming Out Party: 42S Grader Posted: 05 Jul 2014 at 7:25pm
	Hi guys-Here are some pictures of the 42S I have been working on. Picked it up in November 2013. She still isn't pretty but I hope to get it to the show. Here is some background on it: 1939 42S is based on the UC tractor (same mechanicals engine back) It appears that it had been sitting for 10+ years (based on tree growth around it). Lucky for it, it was parked next to a nudist colony (I'm serious! East Bethel, MN). Front rims were shot...I ended up finding some 20" split rims to put on it. Original rear rims were gone (it is suppose to have 24" duals similar to an on-highway truck of that era). After much searching, I selected the same solution that the previous owner had...26" tractor rims. The reason for parking it was that it dropped a valve in #1 cylinder and put a hole in the head. These valves did not have a keeper ring on them that you see on many UM engines. It was used for spreading asphalt at one time. It's last use was clearing snow from parking lots. The drives are all mechanical driven off the front of the engine...all this stuff was shelled out so someone had mounted a Briggs and Stratton engine near the main control box. Left to do...get the canopy done and get all the actuators working. Someone had painted "Happy Birthday Jan" on the side...several Allis friends have reported that they have used a picture of this to convince their wives that they are "normal" ;-). Enjoy the pics. As found: As I moved it: Today:
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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Jacob (WI,ND) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Kenmare, ND Points: 1246	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jacob (WI,ND) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2014 at 7:43pm
	This is so awesome! I know how much work a normal sized tractor is, I can appreciate the effort that went into this beast! I'm looking forward to checking it out at Hutch! So am I reading it right that you got all the mechanical back in working order, or is that still a work in progress? I imagine finding parts for this sort of thing is near impossible? I remember reading your post when you got it, and forgot about it until this. Super exciting!
	Jacob Swanson 1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45

B26240 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Location: mn Points: 3860	Post Options Post Reply Quote B26240 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2014 at 6:37am
	I love graders !! The wife won't let me buy another one in nice running condition so my hat is off to you my friend !! Mark

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	Amazing find, story, & revival effort. Now, I'll need to look up old specs about it in Norms book. Thank you for sharing. It's very interesting.

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	That's quite a project Terry, looking forward to seeing it at the show.
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	Wow!
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	You have vision and determination! That is great work, and lots of it. Very cool.

wjohn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Location: KS Points: 1913	Post Options Post Reply Quote wjohn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2014 at 11:16am
	I hope you can park it next to a Speed Patrol at the show and take a photo. I can tell that it's huge - definitely a neat and unique project.
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nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2014 at 1:19pm
	Thanks guys. I will try to get a pic of it at a minimum next to a grader based on a B (Neal from Otsego, MN has that). It is running under its own power thanks to a "donor" engine. I hope to have the actuators (acme thread) working for the show...have had to add a lower gearbox and now am in the process of fixing the upper right angle gearbox. Hope I can get the canopy on it for the show as that would make it a look a bit more acceptable! Parts are hard to come by...there is one that is fairly complete at the Heartland Museum boneyard in Clarion Iowa but he would only let me take pictures which I can understand.
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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	Thanks for bringing something AC and very unique back to life. Sure looking forward to seeing it "in the flesh" at Hutch!

Lon(MN) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Elk River,MN Points: 1955	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lon(MN) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 2014 at 6:35am
	Should count how many Allis projects started there new life at Gary's. That grader is big.

nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 2014 at 6:13am
	Lon-So true!! Here are the latest pictures. The canopy is done and the actuator mechanisms all work!! It is a Christmas Miracle in July ;-).
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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	That is super cool. I can't wait to see it at Hutch! Definitely a show stopper. Thanks for the pics! Dale

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	Great project, I'll bet it takes half an acre just to turn it around, what a rig. So if it was next to the nudist, did it take a long time to load and then "go back to look for left over parts that may have fallen off" a time or two! Leon B MO
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	I'll be looking for it !!

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	Great pictures! Great work! Cant wait to see it. I often wonder what Gary's neighbors think about all of that rusty orange going in and out of his driveway! He has assisted in a lot of "bringing new life" to many machines. Gary is an A++++++++ guy. Jim
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	Thats really cool! Are the front wheels driven? I'm assuming not based on the direction the tread is mounted? Ben

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	Wow -- that's awesome.

nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 5:11am
	No just rear wheel driven...but it is a solid axle. There is no differential. I picked the grader up in November so all the nudists had on their winter coats ;-).
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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	That's a NICE FIND

nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 11:30am
	Here is a video of it taking its first steps. Sorry about the damage to your lawn Mr. Agrimson. ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt9-0uSZ2cg&feature=youtu.be
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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	Man that thing is Huge!!! Looks like a bear and a half to turn it too...hahaha Cant wait to see it! Brett
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nowaktj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Elk River, MN Points: 723	Post Options Post Reply Quote nowaktj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 12:06pm
	Here is a picture from the show. We were lucky enough on Sunday to get Neal's B grader staged in front of the 42S as it went through the parade. Edited by nowaktj - 30 Jul 2014 at 12:07pm
	D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G

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	I enjoyed checking this out at the show, unfortunately I never was around it while you were Terry! I wanted to BS with you and learn a little more about this unique beast. Thanks again for bringing it, and keep up the good work! Maybe next year we'll run into each other. PS- for those interested, I have some pics of this on the other hutch post here: http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92887&title=its-hutch-time-see-you-there
	Jacob Swanson 1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45

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	That thing is awesome! I love the way it looks, if it were mine I would leave it as is, get everything working and show her in her work clothes. I love it!! Awesome!
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	Hi i have two of thease graders. One gas powered with the U engine and the other powered by a Hesselman Diesel as what was also in the WKO crawler. Haven't had either of them going. Will try and post some photos soon. Gerald Taylor New Zealand

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	wow...that's awesum! that should be fun to restore! and...hows come none of them MN's folks didn't tells me bouts that there NUDIST CAMP up there! PffffT!